BachToRock
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
Hey DougGuy... are you originally from Philly?
Nice review...
Hey DougGuy... are you originally from Philly?
Nice review...
HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
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jake_xms3_punk
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
how come this isn't a "sticky" any more? the hex screws look killer on that 59/custom
hybrid. what differences in tone do they make?
how come this isn't a "sticky" any more? the hex screws look killer on that 59/custom
hybrid. what differences in tone do they make?
BachToRock
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
The hex screws spread the magnetic field more broadly/evenly... makes it a little thicker sounding.
The hex screws spread the magnetic field more broadly/evenly... makes it a little thicker sounding.
marcello252
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DougGuy
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
After running around and finally finding my socks and putting them back on <snicker>LOL... from the first C5/59 A5 builds, I tried some unoriented A5 and wasn't at all impressed. Made another hybrid with an EVH Frankie/59N A2 and was equally not impressed, what the C5/59 A5 had over the Frankie in it's as-issued state, the EVH/59N hybrid lacked as well, not as definied and lacking any particular dynamics that reached out and grabbed ya, so I might put the EVH back together and fleabay it.
However.... removing the nickel plated slugs and pole screws and replacing them with non-plated 1215 alloy slugs and 1022 alloy non-plated pole screws, swapping in an A4 bar instead of an A5, and putting this assembled hybrid into a thin PAF style nickel silver cover worked vintage tonal nirvana wonders for the bridge position in a Lester, paired with an Antiquity neck.
I am getting a real nice set of Fillmore tones now out of this guitar, and using the volume and tone controls rolled down farther than I normally do produces some exquisite dynamics, very articulate and intimately sensitive to the picking attack, any smear, slide, double stop, chiming vibrato and chirp in fingering comes through very transparently in that it just sounds like the guitar does acoustically, but through a modded Peavey Delta Blues 2x10 it just sounds like a WAY HUGE Seth Lover.
If you are a PAF lover, this slightly off kilter A4 hybrid with non-plated poles/slugs offers a little more of the original holy grail tone, a super nice edgy gritty picking attack and slightly less over the top insane harmonics, but retains the high output/articulate and defined overall tone of the C5/59 A5 hybrid. I got back a good bit more of the middle position sweetness that was pretty diminished with the C5/59 A5 in the bridge position and the Antiquity in the neck. This version is ~the~ blues/vintage rock tone MONSTER!
@BachToRock: Nahh man, not from Philly, growed up way down south..
After running around and finally finding my socks and putting them back on <snicker>LOL... from the first C5/59 A5 builds, I tried some unoriented A5 and wasn't at all impressed. Made another hybrid with an EVH Frankie/59N A2 and was equally not impressed, what the C5/59 A5 had over the Frankie in it's as-issued state, the EVH/59N hybrid lacked as well, not as definied and lacking any particular dynamics that reached out and grabbed ya, so I might put the EVH back together and fleabay it.
However.... removing the nickel plated slugs and pole screws and replacing them with non-plated 1215 alloy slugs and 1022 alloy non-plated pole screws, swapping in an A4 bar instead of an A5, and putting this assembled hybrid into a thin PAF style nickel silver cover worked vintage tonal nirvana wonders for the bridge position in a Lester, paired with an Antiquity neck.
I am getting a real nice set of Fillmore tones now out of this guitar, and using the volume and tone controls rolled down farther than I normally do produces some exquisite dynamics, very articulate and intimately sensitive to the picking attack, any smear, slide, double stop, chiming vibrato and chirp in fingering comes through very transparently in that it just sounds like the guitar does acoustically, but through a modded Peavey Delta Blues 2x10 it just sounds like a WAY HUGE Seth Lover.
If you are a PAF lover, this slightly off kilter A4 hybrid with non-plated poles/slugs offers a little more of the original holy grail tone, a super nice edgy gritty picking attack and slightly less over the top insane harmonics, but retains the high output/articulate and defined overall tone of the C5/59 A5 hybrid. I got back a good bit more of the middle position sweetness that was pretty diminished with the C5/59 A5 in the bridge position and the Antiquity in the neck. This version is ~the~ blues/vintage rock tone MONSTER!
@BachToRock: Nahh man, not from Philly, growed up way down south..
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BachToRock
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
Posted some newer photos on page 1... check out the sweet GMP with double cream Brobucker and Jazz/59 neck hybrid!
Posted some newer photos on page 1... check out the sweet GMP with double cream Brobucker and Jazz/59 neck hybrid!
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
very sweet guitar!
how would you compare the brobucker with the custom/59 hybrid?
ps: how would you describe, or think, a custom/PG hybrid would work out?
very sweet guitar!
how would you compare the brobucker with the custom/59 hybrid?
ps: how would you describe, or think, a custom/PG hybrid would work out?
BachToRock
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
The Brobucker and the Custom/59 Hybrid are pretty similar, but the Brobucker can sound a bit congested in comparison. The Hybrid has greater clarity and dimension.
The PG wind is very similar to a 59, but is uses an A2 magnet... I have made several and any difference is negligable.
The Brobucker and the Custom/59 Hybrid are pretty similar, but the Brobucker can sound a bit congested in comparison. The Hybrid has greater clarity and dimension.
The PG wind is very similar to a 59, but is uses an A2 magnet... I have made several and any difference is negligable.
Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
thanks for the info! sounds like it will sound great!
thanks for the info! sounds like it will sound great!
Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
I love the 59B/jazzB hybrid in the neckposition of a les paul. its SO awesome. its clear, articulate, flutey, warm... damn!
about my PG/custom5 hybrid with an alnico5 magnet: its got MIDS! the guitar sounds HUGE. more mids than I would've thought. no need for an a8 or uoa5. maybe I'll raise the polepieces for more bit, but so far, I'm lovin it! it's got more growl than a '59/custom hybrid.
I love the 59B/jazzB hybrid in the neckposition of a les paul. its SO awesome. its clear, articulate, flutey, warm... damn!
about my PG/custom5 hybrid with an alnico5 magnet: its got MIDS! the guitar sounds HUGE. more mids than I would've thought. no need for an a8 or uoa5. maybe I'll raise the polepieces for more bit, but so far, I'm lovin it! it's got more growl than a '59/custom hybrid.
CloneRanger
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
Thinking of getting a 42/44 AWG neck hybrid made. I put together a DiMarzio PAF/SD hybrid a couple of years ago, unwinding the SD coil down to 5.9K to match PAF output, surprised at the modest (but distinct) tonal difference between the two coils, but very happy about the subtle 3D beauty of especially the parallel mode. I reckon a 44 AWG coil would match PAF strength somewhere around 7K, and since there'd be lots of room for a good crazy scatter, that would be an option... The basic idea is obviously to do a 'bucker that cuts to 2 distinctive singles, yet blends for 2 wide open humbucked sounds... Ideally a 4-in-1 pup, though that might be a bit too ambitious. With a as weak a mag as feasible. Any thoughts?
Thinking of getting a 42/44 AWG neck hybrid made. I put together a DiMarzio PAF/SD hybrid a couple of years ago, unwinding the SD coil down to 5.9K to match PAF output, surprised at the modest (but distinct) tonal difference between the two coils, but very happy about the subtle 3D beauty of especially the parallel mode. I reckon a 44 AWG coil would match PAF strength somewhere around 7K, and since there'd be lots of room for a good crazy scatter, that would be an option... The basic idea is obviously to do a 'bucker that cuts to 2 distinctive singles, yet blends for 2 wide open humbucked sounds... Ideally a 4-in-1 pup, though that might be a bit too ambitious. With a as weak a mag as feasible. Any thoughts?
Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
I am selling a custom/59b hybrid over at the TP
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=230495
grab it quick these dont sit long!
I am selling a custom/59b hybrid over at the TP
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=230495
grab it quick these dont sit long!
MarkinKC
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
just made a killer sounding hybrid.
I had a custom custom (Alnico2) that I have been playing with into my plexi. Been trying higher output pickups lately. Got a dimarzio 36th paf that sounds good but lacks balls, hence the custom custom.
The CC is white, so I had a white 59 neck.
I used the CC base and screw, 59 slug & alnico 2. It really cleaned up the low end. You can hear the articulation of low string chords and leads still sound good. It has a nice "snarl", bright without being harsh.
Is there a cleaner option for the slug coil? What would an Alnico 5 do to the sound?
thx
just made a killer sounding hybrid.
I had a custom custom (Alnico2) that I have been playing with into my plexi. Been trying higher output pickups lately. Got a dimarzio 36th paf that sounds good but lacks balls, hence the custom custom.
The CC is white, so I had a white 59 neck.
I used the CC base and screw, 59 slug & alnico 2. It really cleaned up the low end. You can hear the articulation of low string chords and leads still sound good. It has a nice "snarl", bright without being harsh.
Is there a cleaner option for the slug coil? What would an Alnico 5 do to the sound?
thx
Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
what do you mean by that? I think that an alnico5 would make it a bit hotter, less sweet, more harsh, more crunchy, I'd say.
what do you mean by that? I think that an alnico5 would make it a bit hotter, less sweet, more harsh, more crunchy, I'd say.
MarkinKC
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
after playing it for a few hours, I think too much of the hot custom custom is coming through. It is very hot.
The neck 59 is weaker than a bridge right? Sounds like I need the bridge 59 slug, or
I have the second half of what I made, custom custom + neck 59 with alnico 5
how much difference does it make if the cc coil is closest to the bridge or closer to the neck?
after playing it for a few hours, I think too much of the hot custom custom is coming through. It is very hot.
The neck 59 is weaker than a bridge right? Sounds like I need the bridge 59 slug, or
I have the second half of what I made, custom custom + neck 59 with alnico 5
how much difference does it make if the cc coil is closest to the bridge or closer to the neck?
BachToRock
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
You need to use the coil from a 59 Bridge... the neck coil is too weak for pairing with a Custom
You need to use the coil from a 59 Bridge... the neck coil is too weak for pairing with a Custom
Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
sorry but my two hybrids sold in 20 minutes!:eyecrazy:
If i make any more i will PM ya
sorry but my two hybrids sold in 20 minutes!:eyecrazy:
If i make any more i will PM ya
MarkinKC
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Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid
What I made sounds pretty cool none the less....
It has a very interesting "blaze" to it. You hear the fire of the custom coil and the "jangly" of the 59n. It is smoking hot when pushed through the plexi but no mud. Amazing definition of the chords and such.
I'm gonna try to find a cheap, black, Trem CC. I have a trem black 59b.
The CC + 59n were white & cream pickups and standard spacing. Think of this as a beta test.
What I made sounds pretty cool none the less....
It has a very interesting "blaze" to it. You hear the fire of the custom coil and the "jangly" of the 59n. It is smoking hot when pushed through the plexi but no mud. Amazing definition of the chords and such.
I'm gonna try to find a cheap, black, Trem CC. I have a trem black 59b.
The CC + 59n were white & cream pickups and standard spacing. Think of this as a beta test.
