HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

[BachToRock]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I have tried a whole bunch of different Hybrid combos...

The 59/Custom just nails THE tone that can cover so many styles of music... it lets the guitar and the particular amp just shine...
I have made some with Double Screws, Double Slugs, Hex Polepieces and Invader Polepieces all providing very slight variations of tone and response

The JB/Custom is an excellent Hybrid for more of a compressed/non-vintage tone... it works well with either the A5 magnet or the Ceramic magnet from the Custom... think Custom 5 with the signature mid response of the JB mixed together.

The KILLER neck pickup is the 59N/Jazz Hybrid and the 59N/APII which are basically the same thing as the APII coil and the Jazz coil are pretty much identical... I am slowly convering all of my guitars to this neck pickup to match the Alnico 59/Custom Hybrid in the bridge.

NOTESFIELD
I have a few extra Duncan A5 magnets and will swap you for the A2 from the Custom Custom if you don't need it...

 

[BachToRock]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

IMO, SD is long overdue for a new HB, and this one nails what many of us are looking for. It is what I though the C5 was going to sound like!

I would love nothing more that for Duncan to market this pickup...
One problem may be that DiMarzio has a patent on "Dual Resonance" design in a humbucker pickup.
From what I understand, that means any humbucker that is knowingly designed with two distinct different coils(which deviates from the original symetrical coil design) would be in infringemet of the patent...
One thing that makes me question this is that Lindy Fralin markets a pickup called the Un-bucker that has mismatched coils of the same type of wire... maybe the DiMarzio patent covers only balanced design with different guages of wire?

 

[yeti]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I wonder what would happen if you slapped an Alnico 8 in a 59/Custom hybrid? That seems to be all the rage on the forum this week.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I wonder what would happen if you slapped an Alnico 8 in a 59/Custom hybrid? That seems to be all the rage on the forum this week.

Try it and let the rest of us know? :beerchug:

 

[yeti]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

Hell, i'm still waiting for my first Custom to arrive!:laugh2:
But I do have Allstars webpage saved, and a list of all the usual suspects to contact in my quest (you're on there buddy) for tone.
Why do I see this ending with me on a live CNN feed, screaming "Alnico 13!!!" from a clocktower?:smack:

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

Hell, i'm still waiting for my first Custom to arrive!:laugh2:
But I do have Allstars webpage saved, and a list of all the usual suspects to contact in my quest (you're on there buddy) for tone.
Why do I see this ending with me on a live CNN feed, screaming "Alnico 13!!!" from a clocktower?:smack:

I haven't tryed anything over an A5 and I start thinking that you'd almost be in ceramic magnet territory in output and magnet strength that high on the alnico 8? Probably nowhere near ceramic though huh? I don't ever use ceramic pickups and so I don't really know...I do know that A5 is more than enough as far as power in the lows and highs and good strong tight output..

 

[Fusion1]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

Im a sucker and ordered a variety from All Star Magnetics. 4 Alnico 8's, 2 Ceramic 8's, and I guess 3 Alnico 3's and 3 Alnico 4's.

 

[yeti]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

What I really need to do is sit down and compare the posts on the 59/Custom hybrid (and the improvements it brings sound) and compare to the Custom 8...might very well be some "overlap" on enhancements that would cause potential problems.

 

[claytonc]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

has anyone made a Gibson 57 classic/ Custom hybrid? I have a couple of these laying around and wonder how they would sound with the aid of a Custom?

 

[BachToRock]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I would stick with Duncan coils... some of the specs might be slightly off and you will have some difficulty.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

has anyone made a Gibson 57 classic/ Custom hybrid? I have a couple of these laying around and wonder how they would sound with the aid of a Custom?

Yucky.....Don't do that! Start off with some already great Duncans or you'll be polishing a turd! :laugh2:

The Classic 57s don't compare to any of the vintage wound Duncans! I had em both and sold them right away!

 

[claytonc]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I have had mine in the bridge of a Brian Moore for a week or so now and It really is Exceptional! Lots of harmonics. Definitely sounds like EVH circa late 70's early 80's. I will have to try it in several other guitars!

Thanks BachToRock!

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I have had mine in the bridge of a Brian Moore for a week or so now and It really is Exceptional! Lots of harmonics. Definitely sounds like EVH circa late 70's early 80's. I will have to try it in several other guitars!

Thanks BachToRock!

Not everyone feels the same way about the Hybrids,but they do sound really great in my Tokai Love Rock....Harmonics and a great combination of what I Love about the CC and the 59 pickups...I use an A2 in the bridge on this guitar...You get ballsy tone,great note clarity,chime on the top,strong overall lows,and great harmonics..

I also have a Jazz/59N A4 in the neck of this same guitar...Might just be this guitar that I Like the hybrids in,but whatever,it sounds really great..:dance:

 

[Pierre]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

Mhmm ok... great thread! I do have a couple of questions...
You mention desoldering the wires. I have no idea where from haha! If i desolder them from the coil, wouldn't the start/finish wires get lost? Or are all finish/start wired to the 4 conductors AFTER the coil, and this is where you have to desolder? Do the wires keep the same colors so you can't mess it up?
I'm REALLY tempted by a Distortion/Fullshred or a Custom/Fullshred (both Ceramic) hybrid. I love the FS but I'd need a bit more power.

 

[BachToRock]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I have had mine in the bridge of a Brian Moore for a week or so now and It really is Exceptional! Lots of harmonics. Definitely sounds like EVH circa late 70's early 80's. I will have to try it in several other guitars!

Thanks BachToRock!

ClaytonC... glad you are enjoying the 59/Custom A5 Hybrid... let's hear some more details on what you think of it.

All Those Brobucker 10k PAF guys have no idea what they are missing... the 11.25k 59/Custom Hybrid is THE BOMB!

I sent a JB/Custom A5 Hybrid and a 59/Jazz Neck Hybrid to another forum member recently... maybe he will chime in with a review and/or comments soon...

 

[wildstar]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

ClaytonC... glad you are enjoying the 59/Custom A5 Hybrid... let's hear some more details on what you think of it.

All Those Brobucker 10k PAF guys have no idea what they are missing... the 11.25k 59/Custom Hybrid is THE BOMB!

I sent a JB/Custom A5 Hybrid and a 59/Jazz Neck Hybrid to another forum member recently... maybe he will chime in with a review and/or comments soon...

You betcha! I'm the guy he's talking about, and I just put my guitar down after playing an hour. Whew! Lemme just wipe the sweat away and say:

I HAVE BEEN BachToRock-ERIZED!!!!! :banana: :dance:

BTR sent me a JB/Custom5 and 59/Jazz hybrid, and let me just tell you boys: these pups kill.

Slay.

Destroy.

And every other positive thing you can say about a pickup that has to do with violent death and destruction. But in a GOOD way.

I'm too wired up at the moment to write coherently, but I will collect my thoughts and observations and post them in a new thread soon. :bigthumb:

 

[notesfield]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

I play Gibsons and various other set-neck, Gibson style guitars and the 59/cc hybrid did for me what few other pickups could do. I tried and liked different things about the c5,cc, pg, 59, dimarzio vhpaf and the rio bbqs. i made a hybrid out of that 59 and cc and it really got me far closer to that elusive something that the others were missing. individual results and tastes may vary, but from clean to high gain, this hybrid really captured what i wanted all those other models to do.
i started with the a5 but have since switched to the a2 magnet. i feel it is warmer and fuller or maybe a bit of both. bach to rock will make you one, it is money well spent and costs basically the same as a new Duncan in the box.

 

[PoorMan]

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All Those Brobucker 10k PAF guys have no idea what they are missing... the 11.25k 59/Custom Hybrid is THE BOMB!QUOTE]

I'll have both. I was one of the nuts screaming for the Brobucker...I almost retreated after discovering the hybrid and liking it so much. The Brobucker's specs aren't spot on (IMO) but I ordered one and I still look forward to it. Now that I install my own pickups I'm at a point where the more pickups I have, the better--I have a DiMarzio VHot PAF on the way and will be ordering a HighOrder 'bucker soon too. The more the merrier.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

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I'll have both pickups also....I'm thinking the BroBucker will be a collectable someday and I'll have one....I also am waiting on the VPAF Hot pickup and I Love variety in my life! LOL

 

[WGTP]

Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

Has anyone tried a Full Shred/Demon hybrid?