humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
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Mounts them and then puts the top on them? If that is the case, kind of a sh*tty move on Ed and you better like whatever pickups come in it. But it sure looks nice.
Mounts them and then puts the top on them? If that is the case, kind of a sh*tty move on Ed and you better like whatever pickups come in it. But it sure looks nice.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Like Parker?
Like Parker?
Zerberus
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2 common ways to do it, each with pros and cons:
1. Mount the pickup before you glue the (pre routed) top on.
Pros: pickups cannot be dislodged by anything short of a Drone strike, looks clean all around
Cons: A thousand ways from here on in to damage the pickups during construction, have to nail the pickup height, pickups not easily replaceable (I know how to do it, I know how to do it!
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2. pickups are routed from the back
Pros: Pickups are easily replaced at any time, height can still be adjusted, guitar construction is otherwise unhindered.
Cons: backplates and a big chunk of wood missing. You can fill the cavities and match the covers and glue them shut, but then you lose all the pros of this method and gain all the cons of method 1. Possible, but a very inefficient way to do it.
Side note: If all pans out, there will soon be a "And then there´s the way I do it" way which will offer more adjustability and position control than before, and maintain full replaceability. Without the cost of woodwork OR construction efficiency. "Unfortunately", it won`t work with every pickup as it`s implementation is very much dependent on the method of construction used. But if you can afford to have me build you a custom guitar then you can afford to have the Duncan CS wind you 2 pickups that sound exactly like whatever you want , muahahaha :firedevil:chairfall
There are of course other ways like epoxying the bobbins and magnet to the wood, also with their pros and cons. But these require actual modification of the pickup. He could have simply ground the baseplate down to minimum possible dimensions and glued it to the guitar. Then again, ER also uses "Black Backs", which have black baseplates, so it may even be an illuion to some extent.
And I`ve seen people experiment with drilling a hole between the ends of the bobbins, but when you short out almost every pickup after 2 or 3 height adjustments you
*Edit* Or, as vasshu suggested, like Parker does. Some of the polepieces are extra long and are what hold the pickup to the guitar. They screw into brads in the body. Completely forgot about that one.
2 common ways to do it, each with pros and cons:
1. Mount the pickup before you glue the (pre routed) top on.
Pros: pickups cannot be dislodged by anything short of a Drone strike, looks clean all around
Cons: A thousand ways from here on in to damage the pickups during construction, have to nail the pickup height, pickups not easily replaceable (I know how to do it, I know how to do it!
)2. pickups are routed from the back
Pros: Pickups are easily replaced at any time, height can still be adjusted, guitar construction is otherwise unhindered.
Cons: backplates and a big chunk of wood missing. You can fill the cavities and match the covers and glue them shut, but then you lose all the pros of this method and gain all the cons of method 1. Possible, but a very inefficient way to do it.
Side note: If all pans out, there will soon be a "And then there´s the way I do it" way which will offer more adjustability and position control than before, and maintain full replaceability. Without the cost of woodwork OR construction efficiency. "Unfortunately", it won`t work with every pickup as it`s implementation is very much dependent on the method of construction used. But if you can afford to have me build you a custom guitar then you can afford to have the Duncan CS wind you 2 pickups that sound exactly like whatever you want , muahahaha :firedevil:chairfall
There are of course other ways like epoxying the bobbins and magnet to the wood, also with their pros and cons. But these require actual modification of the pickup. He could have simply ground the baseplate down to minimum possible dimensions and glued it to the guitar. Then again, ER also uses "Black Backs", which have black baseplates, so it may even be an illuion to some extent.
And I`ve seen people experiment with drilling a hole between the ends of the bobbins, but when you short out almost every pickup after 2 or 3 height adjustments you
*Edit* Or, as vasshu suggested, like Parker does. Some of the polepieces are extra long and are what hold the pickup to the guitar. They screw into brads in the body. Completely forgot about that one.
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frankfalbo
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I think it might be like a Parker, where pole pieces double as mounting and height adjustment screws. Otherwise I've done it with minihumbuckers by bringing the legs in instead of out, and running the screws up from the back.
I think it might be like a Parker, where pole pieces double as mounting and height adjustment screws. Otherwise I've done it with minihumbuckers by bringing the legs in instead of out, and running the screws up from the back.
King IzzO)))
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I'm not seeing the point of doing it in the first place.
I'm not seeing the point of doing it in the first place.
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just because it looks pretty. thats it.
just because it looks pretty. thats it.
RorySquier
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I've been on Ed's site many times in the past when he was alive. If I remember correctly, the idea behind the way he mounts these pick ups is to pick up more vibration from the body. The guitar pup is basically a microphone in a sense so when the pick up is mounted right against the body, it picks up more sound coming from the wood of the body. Ed was known to use up to 44 different kinds of tone woods from all over. Some of the woods are just simply stunning. The stratocaster is another example of pick up mounting where it's pups are spring-suspended from a plastic cover. So in theory the pick ups are not efficiently picking up the whole sound? Everyone has their own take on it. It is an interesting topic, how to make your guitar pick ups sound more efficient.
I've been on Ed's site many times in the past when he was alive. If I remember correctly, the idea behind the way he mounts these pick ups is to pick up more vibration from the body. The guitar pup is basically a microphone in a sense so when the pick up is mounted right against the body, it picks up more sound coming from the wood of the body. Ed was known to use up to 44 different kinds of tone woods from all over. Some of the woods are just simply stunning. The stratocaster is another example of pick up mounting where it's pups are spring-suspended from a plastic cover. So in theory the pick ups are not efficiently picking up the whole sound? Everyone has their own take on it. It is an interesting topic, how to make your guitar pick ups sound more efficient.
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jumble jumble
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Ayrton
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http://www.edroman.com/techarticles/directcoup_block.htm
http://www.edroman.com/techarticles/directcoup_block.htm
RorySquier
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^^
Ok wise guy!!! How come when I put my Smart phone near the guitar pick up when it's playing whatever sound on the phone, it is amplified through the speakers? Sure sounds microphonic to me! Ok, carry on.
^^
Ok wise guy!!! How come when I put my Smart phone near the guitar pick up when it's playing whatever sound on the phone, it is amplified through the speakers? Sure sounds microphonic to me! Ok, carry on.
arellanon
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No it does not just look pretty, it looks different.
No it does not just look pretty, it looks different.
L
Little Pigbacon
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Microphonic action is not the primary mode of operation of a magnetic pickup in an electric guitar. It's a side-effect at best and is not the bulk of what you hear through the amp.
Microphonic action is not the primary mode of operation of a magnetic pickup in an electric guitar. It's a side-effect at best and is not the bulk of what you hear through the amp.
RorySquier
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
Hey, whatever you want to call it...non-primary or a side-effect, a guitar pick up still has micro-phonic properties and of course pick ups vary as we all know. Some pick ups are more micro-phonic than others, especially mini-humbuckers, etc. The point is that guitar pick ups are similar in ways to a microphone, even though it's built different from a microphone. When I say a guitar pick up is basically a microphone, I mean to say it has those qualities or similarities and I'm not saying directly that a pup is a microphone. Hopefully that clears up that confusion.
Hey, whatever you want to call it...non-primary or a side-effect, a guitar pick up still has micro-phonic properties and of course pick ups vary as we all know. Some pick ups are more micro-phonic than others, especially mini-humbuckers, etc. The point is that guitar pick ups are similar in ways to a microphone, even though it's built different from a microphone. When I say a guitar pick up is basically a microphone, I mean to say it has those qualities or similarities and I'm not saying directly that a pup is a microphone. Hopefully that clears up that confusion.
Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
A pickup IS a microphone for all intents and purposes. It's not a microphone in practical terms, but still... it's a mic
Maybe he cut off the legs and drills a tiny hole between the bobbins in the baseplate and used 2 little screws to fix them to the body, maybe even with the polepieces acting as other anchor points. I really like this look, though.
A pickup IS a microphone for all intents and purposes. It's not a microphone in practical terms, but still... it's a mic
Maybe he cut off the legs and drills a tiny hole between the bobbins in the baseplate and used 2 little screws to fix them to the body, maybe even with the polepieces acting as other anchor points. I really like this look, though.
jumble jumble
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
Hehe, you can understand the confusion when you say "a guitar pick up is basically a microphone", we thought you were saying a guitar pickup was a mic
Anyway, orpheo, let me know what you find out, it's intriguing.
Hehe, you can understand the confusion when you say "a guitar pick up is basically a microphone", we thought you were saying a guitar pickup was a mic
Anyway, orpheo, let me know what you find out, it's intriguing.
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