humbucker mounting

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its been a while since ive done this stuff and i used to know the answer but i forgot, but when you have a humbucker, it has two little mounting legs, and thats what my question is based on...

is there a difference (the pickup itself) between a humbucker that is mounted to the wood, one that is on a mounting ring and one that is mounted to the pickguard

this should be a pretty straight forward answer, i just totally forgot cause like i said its been a while since ive even thought about this stuff
 
Re: humbucker mounting

Ring/pickguard mounting: You get a more neutral response form the pickup and considerably less body vibration and it's easier to change its position. Can be a bit wiggly depending on the guitar design.

Hard-mounting: More body vibration into the pickup which CAN enhance tone for some people. More microphonics (squeal) can occur because of the increased vibration. It can be a real pain in the butt to raise or lower the pickup if its not in the right spot.

I hard-mount my pickup, but this was after a lot of trial and error and finding the sweet spot of where this particular pickup should be in relation to the strings. I can "hear the guitar" a bit more, than when I mounted them on the pickguard but the effect is subtle. Likely I won't do this with other guitars unless the guitar is routed specifically for it. Finding the right height, spacers, etc can be a pain. I do like the fact that the pickup is part of the guitar and doesn't wiggle.

The VAST majority of the sound you hear in a pickup is from the metal strings interrupting the magnet field around the pickup, but one of the reasons you hear a sound is due to vibration, either by vibrating the magnetic field or the coils themselves. You DO hear sounds unrelated to the strings through a pickup and there are subtle tones that cannot be reproduced by the pickup unless it's hard-mounted. Whether this is good or bad, is purely subjective. Eddie Van Halen (who not only has/had one of the most sought-after tones but also is an obsessive tone freak) seems to like the results of hard-mounting since every guitar he's made or had custom made has had hard-mounted pickups.... with the exception of the new "Wolfgang Classic" which is really just a modified Les Paul.
 
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Re: humbucker mounting

thanks for the detailed answer (helpful), but that really wasn't my question, which basically was "can any humbucker be mounted to a pickguard", i kinda figured that one out right after i posted this
 
Re: humbucker mounting

Any humbucker can be mounted however you like, they're all the same. The mounting holes are threaded to grab a screw, but these threads are sometimes drilled out to mount directly to the wood. This would only be a problem with a used pickup though.
 
Re: humbucker mounting

thanks for the detailed answer (helpful), but that really wasn't my question, which basically was "can any humbucker be mounted to a pickguard", i kinda figured that one out right after i posted this

A pickguard-mounted pickup like a Strat, will have different vibration relative to the wood, than a small plastic ring mounted to the wood. But I would think the tonal difference between the pickguard-mount and ring-mount if we're talking about the same exact guitar, would be a lot less than the difference between those and one that's hard-mounted.

But actually, if you're attempting to mount a Seymour Duncan "Trembucker" which aligns the poles of the pickup better with wider American Fender-spaced guitars, will NOT fit inside typical pickguards meant for humbuckers and have to have special mounting rings as a result.
 
Re: humbucker mounting

I've been hard-mounting pickups for the past 5 years. It is a giant pain to use wood shims to get the pickup height set perfectly. Tone-wise, I do notice a difference, although it's not always a good thing. Regardless of pickup, the low-mids are typically thick and looser sounding. You tend to get more bass than a ring-mounted pickup.
 
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