Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

[LtKojak]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

There will be a bridge, no? That's the pickup I could be jonesing for...

I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to here, B.?

Care to elaborate?

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

I am saying that I could be interested in the bridge if what's designed were to come as the neck of a set. This has been so in the case of fuglies... The neck was designed, yet a bridge was also offered.

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[Edgecrusher]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

I am saying that I could be interested in the bridge if what's designed were to come as the neck of a set. This has been so in the case of fuglies... The neck was designed, yet a bridge was also offered.

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But it is a set? Just the 59/C is already part of the duncan catalog. If you want you can order a 59/C and the new neck and you will have your set.

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

I don't like 59/C, did not like it when I did it sorta 10 years ago, then did not like it when I bought it new way back when it was offered as a regular production item (with various mags)...

If MJ were to come up with a some different bridge for this set, then I could be interested. That's what I am saying. Otherwise, I don't care about the neck pickup being designed here.

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[GuitarStv]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

I have no horse in this race anymore. I was interested in a hum free p90 in HB sized casing, which was shot down for the current design. That said . . .

The 59/Custom neck was voted to be a match to the 59/Custom bridge. It would be really weird to offer a 59/Custom neck pickup with *some random other pickup here* as a set.

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

I don't like 59/C, did not like it when I did it sorta 10 years ago, then did not like it when I bought it new way back when it was offered as a regular production item (with various mags)...

If MJ were to come up with a some different bridge for this set, then I could be interested. That's what I am saying. Otherwise, I don't care about the neck pickup being designed here.

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As stated many times now, this year's forum pickup is going to be a neck companion to the 59/C, not an entirely new bridge pickup. Guess you'll have to wait until the 2016 forum design or call the custom shop if you're not interested in what's being offered here.

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Why is everyone stating the obvious?

Of course, I know all these... What I am saying is that the pickup could be offered as a set. (That has been precisely what has happened in the design of Fuglies) If only the neck is offered, fine I don't buy... And if the bridge were to be a bit different from the regular 59/C bridge (afterall it is offered as a production model), then depending on the specs, I could be interested in. If not, I don't buy...

It's that simple...

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[Edgecrusher]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

If MJ were to come up with a some different bridge for this set, then I could be interested. That's what I am saying. Otherwise, I don't care about the neck pickup being designed here.

A different bridge would actually make it not a set... I dont think from the outset was there ever a plan that involved a new bridge that really got any traction. This time around its always been just a neck pickup.

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Then... I'll have to wait.

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[superpete]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

a companion custom shop forum modified 59/c bridge humbucker was talked about quite a bit in the planning phases of this neck pickup. it's not like dr b pulled that thought out of thin air.

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Right on! I've been lurking...

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[Edgecrusher]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

a companion custom shop forum modified 59/c bridge humbucker was talked about quite a bit in the planning phases of this neck pickup. it's not like dr b pulled that thought out of thin air.

Not really... at the beginning when it was between the z coil idea and the unspecified hybrid idea it was kicked around about making a matching bridge for the new neck hybrid but the idea didnt get much traction. By the time it was decided that this would be a neck 59/C the idea of a companion bridge was dead.

 

[KeeperOS]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Actually you are all wrong, the original plan was indeed for a set with the original neck pu to be a match for the 59/Custom bridge but was intended to be specifically paired with a bridge version that was also supposed to come from these proceedings:

"The hybrid concept is based on getting a good hybrid pickup in the neck position to pair with the 59/Custom. It will be made as a original set, the voicing starts with the 59/Custom but will have more upper mid focus, more controlled bass, cleaner, clearer. It will still have the hybrid complexity. Whether it will be made with 2 different wire gauges, or just have mismatched coils is yet to be determined. ".

Honestly, my impressions from all this is that ever since that poll ended everyone decided to completely ignore its' upvoted result and just have a do-over with whatever certain individuals wanted.

It is the reason I haven't voted in any of these "new" polls nor will I be participating in whatever results from them...

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Actually you are all wrong, the original plan was indeed for a set with the original neck pu to be a match for the 59/Custom bridge but was intended to be specifically paired with a bridge version that was also supposed to come from these proceedings:

"The hybrid concept is based on getting a good hybrid pickup in the neck position to pair with the 59/Custom. It will be made as a original set, the voicing starts with the 59/Custom but will have more upper mid focus, more controlled bass, cleaner, clearer. It will still have the hybrid complexity. Whether it will be made with 2 different wire gauges, or just have mismatched coils is yet to be determined. ".

Honestly, my impressions from all this is that ever since that poll ended everyone decided to completely ignore its' upvoted result and just have a do-over with whatever certain individuals wanted.

It is the reason I haven't voted in any of these "new" polls nor will I be participating in whatever results from them...

Maybe my reading comprehension is failing me but i dont see where there is a new bridge specified in that. I read that as a the voicing for the neck pickup starts with the 59/c. I dont read that there are specs for a bridge pickup included in that... after all it does say " The hybrid concept is based on getting a good hybrid pickup in the neck position to pair with the 59/Custom."

In that whole thread no one is talking about a new bridge. I think what your confusing is the line "It will be made as a original set " but there is no mention anywhere that the "set" includes a new bridge pickup.

but maybe im reading that wrong

 

[KeeperOS]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Reading comprehension or spotting abilities, whichever you'd prefer.

It is the bolded section that states "It will be made as a original set" which means exactly that there'll be two original pickups that will be intended to be used as a pair...


EDIT, to further cement this here's the previous hybrid-related poll clearly explaining what a set means and specifically mentioning the bridge as yet undefined:

This poll will determine whether or not we proceed with a hybrid concept on the humbucker side. Having a neck hybrid that is matched with the 59/Custom seems to be the most agreed upon idea. To increase appeal, we need to have a set. How we frame all of this is important.

1. Neck must be well matched in tonality, and output to the 59/Custom.
2. Bridge is currently undefined. Possibly voiced with contrast to neck and 59/Custom. Possibly a modified 59/Custom.
Doesn't even have to be a hybrid.
3. Low to moderate output.
4. Original coil design. Nothing that can be made with production coils.

 

[superpete]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Maybe my reading comprehension is failing me but i dont see where there is a new bridge specified in that. I read that as a the voicing for the neck pickup starts with the 59/c. I dont read that there are specs for a bridge pickup included in that... after all it does say " The hybrid concept is based on getting a good hybrid pickup in the neck position to pair with the 59/Custom."

In that whole thread no one is talking about a new bridge. I think what your confusing is the line "It will be made as a original set " but there is no mention anywhere that the "set" includes a new bridge pickup.

but maybe im reading that wrong

that is just one post. in context there were some talks of the new bridge humbucker being a middier, cleaner, clearer version of the 59/c.

Nevertheless it doesn't really matter. I wasn't trying to derail anything at this point. Just wanted to point out there was talk of a bridge bucker at one point.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

Reading comprehension or spotting abilities, whichever you'd prefer.

It is the bolded section that states "It will be made as a original set" which means exactly that there'll be two original pickups that will be intended to be used as a pair...


EDIT, to further cement this here's the previous hybrid-related poll clearly explaining what a set means and specifically mentioning the bridge as yet undefined:

Yeah i get where you are coming from but at the same time i already pointed out where there is large room for confusion. I'm also suspecting iam not the only person who read it the way i did as there hasnt been any discussion of a matching bridge pickup since that post.

It could have been worded a ton better and maybe things would have gone differently. Its talking about "new original" and "based off the 59/C" ... so which is it? Those 2 things are in contradiction with each other.

The previous poll doesnt really cement anything unless you include the greater context of what was discussed between the 2 votes.

Either way this is all moot... there is no bridge pickup this time around. Doesnt matter if it was discussed before or not.

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

But what's wrong the getting a bridge with the same vaguely specified terms and without going into weird details? It would not take time... And those who don't want it, would be just getting the neck.

Indeed, the entire reason that I am following this is the bridge pickup. And I suppose there could be others like me.

BTW I did the same with Fuglies, just followed the discussion did not participate. But when I saw the specs, I loved the bridge (am not into high output stuff) and pulled the trigger. Meanwhile, many of those who participated in heated discussions skipped them...

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[Masta' C]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

So, here in the official "let's get it over with" thread, you are now requesting the addition of an entirely NEW hybrid bridge pickup to go with the 59/Custom Neck model, which is, in itself, being designed explicitly as a companion for the stock 59/Custom?

I like your enthusiasm (and I wouldn't complain if the Custom Shop decided to throw in a "new" bridge hybrid to keep this fun and exciting), but your request, at least on its face, is moving against the grain of progress in many people's eyes.

Again, I'm not against your request, but it's obvious to me why it's being met with some contention. Just saying...

P.S. - I'm starting to think I'm just going to put in an order for the Alpha/Omega set and call it my "2015 Custom Shop purchase of the year"...

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Hy-Bro 2015 p'up: "Let's get it over with" vote

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...th-quot-vote&p=3830208&viewfull=1#post3830208

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