I am finished with being a namebrand snob.

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B Bent said:
quite honestly would be too loud for my use.

I say over and over how loud these amps are and no one ever believes me. :laugh2:

Sorry you didn't like the Z's. The tone stack is kind of hard to get used to, and without help in a store it can be frustrating.

Glad you liked the Crate, they really are making some good sounding stuff these days. Ampegs are still top notch too!

Luke
 
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joelap said:
B Bent, is the V30/V32 a good clean amp? How would it compare to a Twin Reverb?

I am a clean fanatic. That's the first thing I do when I sit down in front of an amp is to dial in the best sounding clean I can and then go from there. Given this I approached the V32 the same way and I must say again I really liked it!! I just happened to switch channels pretty quick and whale away on some crunchy rythyms!!! I spent more of my time while in GC diggin it's breakup. As far as clean it sounded nice, nowhere near the headroom of a Twin (30 watts...EL84s). I am glad you asked me to compare it to a Twin since my ear adores the clean of a Twin and I always seem to catch myself basing my clean EQ on the sound I hear in my head from Twins I have had in the past. While the reverb was better than i ever imagined it was not a Twin. It wasn't as lush or as springy or splashy or deep..(sorry those were the only 3 words I could think of to describe what a Twins reverb sounds like). I really dig John Mayers reverb on his version of "The Wind Cries Mary" I have always enjoyed playing muted chords through a Twin with the reverb blasted!! I couldn't quite get that out of this amp. I plan on going back soon and taking my guitar and give it a thorough head to toe.
 
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Luke Duke said:
I say over and over how loud these amps are and no one ever believes me. :laugh2:

Sorry you didn't like the Z's. The tone stack is kind of hard to get used to, and without help in a store it can be frustrating.

Luke


Luke,
I loved the Z's and the tones, but I just would never be able to get it that loud. My Blues Jr. is 15 watts and is not even in the same galaxy as the 18 watt Maz Jr. i know that if I spent more time with it I would find the Z useful, but I think for only a third of the price the Crate would rock my world!!!
 
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Do they have these amps in 50watts or higher and 212 combos?
 
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joelap said:
Do they have these amps in 50watts or higher and 212 combos?

Yes, there's a VFX5212, 50 watt 2X12 combo with built in effects.
 
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ErikH said:
Yes, there's a VFX5212, 50 watt 2X12 combo with built in effects.

But... I think they run EL34s instaed of the EL84 of the V30&V32.
 
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B Bent said:
But... I think they run EL34s instaed of the EL84 of the V30&V32.

Yeah, and it's Class A/B where the others are Class A.
 
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Well, my take is this, Crate has just as many people as any other company designing their amps, and those people are just as talented, ect. so I'd give them as much credit as the next guy.

But, you have to admit, when you're playing out in front of people (non-guitarists gear heads :)) and they see the words Marshall, or Mesa, ect, they give you that much more credit as a musician.
 
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Well, if it's any indication, Marty Friedman is using Crates now, so does Billy Gibbons (V Series), Sammy Hagar, Joe Walsh (acoustic), Richie Blackmore (acoustic), Vernon Reid, the list goes on. That's credible enough.
 
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ErikH said:
Well, if it's any indication, Marty Friedman is using Crates now, so does Billy Gibbons (V Series), Sammy Hagar, Joe Walsh (acoustic), Richie Blackmore (acoustic), Vernon Reid, the list goes on. That's credible enough.

I think the only people that will have problems with it are those musicians that are gear snobs. 99% of the audience just won't know or care about the gear you're using. If you can cut through the mix and sound decent, people will be happy.

Even though I'm a guy that you can consider very picky (sometimes snobbish) about gear, I won't discount something unless I've gotten a chance to play or hear it for myself. I've played some Crates before that simply weren't that bad and I've heard great things about some of them (like the Vintage Clubs).
 
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I should try some out next time i'm in the guitar store...sounds interesting!?
 
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B Bent said:
Alright guys I have really been GASin for a class a amp for a while...it was my goal to spend this past Saturday checking out Dr. Z amps at a dealer here in Atl. I played the amp that I thought I wanted the Maz 18 Jr. 2x10 with reverb. It was a really sweet amp, but it didn't quite have the breakup I was looking for and quite honestly would be too loud for my use. On to the Carmen Ghia....it sounded great, but in order to get the breakup I was looking for I had to crank it past where it would be usable in the church environment I play in. These both were great amps and I was highly impressed. I just didn't hear the sound I have in my head so I left somewhat disapointed. Since guitar center is just down the street I stopped in. They had many of the really nice names(used) Tophat, Diezil (spelling??) Mesa....you get the picture, but somehow I ended up playing on a blonde Crate V32 which is a class a EL84 amp special edition exclusive to GC.(Not to be mistaken with the black V30) Now in the past I have been a snob about even being seen near a Crate, but a guy I know that worked there convinced me to try it. Let me just say this, after I finally humbled myself to get past my Crate phobia I plugged in a Highway 1 Tele and honestly was in tone heaven!!! That thing sounded awesome!!!! It has a really killer sounding clean and the OD is quite nice as well!! I am not by any means trying to compare Zs with Crate here, but I must say that I am talking more to my guitar buddies about the $599 Crate than I am the Zs that I played. There again the Zs were gorgeous, but so was the price tag$$$$. I have never been too cheap to pay for high end stuff, but I think as soon as I get over my name brand arrogance I will be back for the V32. I would have never believed it, but I was really impressed!!

Since name brands are not important, hopefully construction methods and parts are. If so, you are ready for a Celtic Amplifier! :)
 
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I've read a lot of good things about Crates V series, most notabley the 30 watt and thier 15 watt model. Fact is I think I'm going to check out the 15 watt model this coming weekend.
 
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It's funny....if you took that Crate chassis & mounted it in say, a Dr. Z box....everybody would fawn over it.

They see Crate & automatically dismiss it.

I've heard nothing but good about the "V" series...and the new Power Block.

Maybe Crate has been doing its' homework & starting to pick up the pace:bigok:
 
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i fully agree. my first tube amp was a Crate Vintage Club combo. I compared it to many amps and finally won the final against Marshall 6101 30th Anniversary and Fender Twin.
Sold it last year because (I thought) it was too loud for my flat and bought a Vox Valvestate - bad decision :-(

Currenty waiting for my used Marshall Anniversary I bought last week in EBay

CRATE RULEZ!!!!
 
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jeremy said:
i like those crate amps, i dont think the gc v32 is much different than the normal crate v30 but heres my advice if you are picking one up.

get a set of tubes and speaker thrown in. gtel84s power tubes and whatever preamp tubes you like, i like the 12ax7c variety for a warm bluesy/rock tone. id say put a celestion g12h-30w in there and youll be very happy. itll give you more volume and a better tone
A+ I have an older Crate VC20 (class A), I've always been a Marshall kinda guy, but when I heard this little used amp at the local GC I too was blown away, I could hear the potential- anyway, I got a good deal on it- took it home, put some JJ's 84's, GT 12axM's and for the PI I took a tip from DrZ and put a GT 12ax7R2, added a Celestion G12-H30 and honestly, this little sucker just sings! Has no problem with keeping up with the Marshall! Very pleased with my little "off-brand" amp.
 
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