I Am Having a Custom Built Bridge !
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LLL
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This one? I was futzing with it a few months ago... rough draft.
'57 classics, SG into '68 plexi. No wah.
This one? I was futzing with it a few months ago... rough draft.
'57 classics, SG into '68 plexi. No wah.
Re: I Am Having a Custom Built Bridge !
LLL , that sounds good. I like what you did with it ! are you doubling that fast melody with a low octave ? That sounds very much like what he does on the studio version.
I like the tone are you using a overdrive ? My version is a project on going. Many mistakes.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eu1kilw7mp2w6bs/olitl072119.wav?dl=0
LLL , that sounds good. I like what you did with it ! are you doubling that fast melody with a low octave ? That sounds very much like what he does on the studio version.
I like the tone are you using a overdrive ? My version is a project on going. Many mistakes.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eu1kilw7mp2w6bs/olitl072119.wav?dl=0
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LLL
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Thanks... the "doubled" part isn't up to speed (yet). The "doubled" part is played with 2 guitars (tracks); one playing lower, one playing higher.
No OD/Dist... straight into amp like so:
SG Custom ('57 Classic bridge)
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(modded to) '68 Plexi Marshall 50W *dimed*
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tapped signal into DAW
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Blackback Celestion speaker iR (SM57 mic)
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EQ/Reverb
Thanks... the "doubled" part isn't up to speed (yet). The "doubled" part is played with 2 guitars (tracks); one playing lower, one playing higher.
No OD/Dist... straight into amp like so:
SG Custom ('57 Classic bridge)
|
(modded to) '68 Plexi Marshall 50W *dimed*
|
tapped signal into DAW
|
Blackback Celestion speaker iR (SM57 mic)
|
EQ/Reverb
LLL
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Generally speaking, you need a "standard" output PAF (~8KOhms) and cranked Plexi 50W for UFO era.
SH-5 is too hot.
Generally speaking, you need a "standard" output PAF (~8KOhms) and cranked Plexi 50W for UFO era.
SH-5 is too hot.
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I get that , the thing is LLL there are so many posts about this subject it should have it's own sub forum. It would be a lot easier to navigate. I read something about a sh-5 posted and a full shred 10 or 11 years ago and the guy said : ( I had a full shred in the bridge and my friend said it sounds just like schenker) Does your friend play guitar ? Schenker what period ? Then in another post I read duncan doesn't make a pickup that is a copy of the T-Top. I am Chrysalis records or bust era. Nothing after. There are countless amp clones , his current wah set up is nothing like the old set up. I would love to have a jmp but not at this time. Will power !
Hells bells he has had a million different set ups. No matter what he sounds like himself. I just listened to him play a acoustic version of lipstick traces and it was amazing.
I have reluctantly posted this but not to show any ability just where I am tone wise now. Go to about 1:34 . I have to question the internet sometimes it seems people really don't know anything ! (not you LLL)
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I get that , the thing is LLL there are so many posts about this subject it should have it's own sub forum. It would be a lot easier to navigate. I read something about a sh-5 posted and a full shred 10 or 11 years ago and the guy said : ( I had a full shred in the bridge and my friend said it sounds just like schenker) Does your friend play guitar ? Schenker what period ? Then in another post I read duncan doesn't make a pickup that is a copy of the T-Top. I am Chrysalis records or bust era. Nothing after. There are countless amp clones , his current wah set up is nothing like the old set up. I would love to have a jmp but not at this time. Will power !
Hells bells he has had a million different set ups. No matter what he sounds like himself. I just listened to him play a acoustic version of lipstick traces and it was amazing.
I have reluctantly posted this but not to show any ability just where I am tone wise now. Go to about 1:34 . I have to question the internet sometimes it seems people really don't know anything ! (not you LLL)
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Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: I Am Having a Custom Built Bridge !
OK - here comes the bitter pill:
Lot's of guys have done far more than cop Schenker's tone with a wide variety of tools. So - since that is the case, it would seem the problem is in your fingers. You are not able to do it.
Sorry man - as has been said by numerous players "I was there on stage with [my hero]. He asked if I wanted to play through his rig. I couldn't believe it!!! I picked up [insert hero here] and I sounded nothing like him."
It happens. But as Boston said - "I gotta keep on chasing that dream...." Me? I'll be on my way....
Good luck
OK - here comes the bitter pill:
Lot's of guys have done far more than cop Schenker's tone with a wide variety of tools. So - since that is the case, it would seem the problem is in your fingers. You are not able to do it.
Sorry man - as has been said by numerous players "I was there on stage with [my hero]. He asked if I wanted to play through his rig. I couldn't believe it!!! I picked up [insert hero here] and I sounded nothing like him."
It happens. But as Boston said - "I gotta keep on chasing that dream...." Me? I'll be on my way....
Good luck
ToneFiddler
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Re: I Am Having a Custom Built Bridge !
aceman is probably right, but you seem to be curious.
maybe get a not too expensive t-top clone (manlius or brandon wound for example) or maybe used ones. then you might get peace of mind and you can stop wondering. i tend to do it this way lately.
if i do a lot of sports i tend to not care so much about that gear stuff, so that might help also (making note to myself).
aceman is probably right, but you seem to be curious.
maybe get a not too expensive t-top clone (manlius or brandon wound for example) or maybe used ones. then you might get peace of mind and you can stop wondering. i tend to do it this way lately.
if i do a lot of sports i tend to not care so much about that gear stuff, so that might help also (making note to myself).
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I am definitely not him and it is quite a lot of work out just playing this one song . I know I'm not him jesus dude, but I can still try. You can't except defeat. I kind of thought it was a waste of time to post this here (you have confirmed that ACE ) but it was exciting to me. By the way Ace could never pull it off . Lol
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LLL
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M.S. did use the SH-5 Custom for a period of time, but that was after the UFO/MSG era.
And always keep in mind that album tone is a mirage... there's always post-production done in the studio that polishes the tone, etc...
Yeah, just like in the real world, there's a lot of BSers online who make incorrect claims and/or talk a big game.
At best, they mislead others and spread misinformation... and at worst, they get touted as some kind of tone and gear messiah.
Can't hear the clip because the link is gone.
M.S. did use the SH-5 Custom for a period of time, but that was after the UFO/MSG era.
And always keep in mind that album tone is a mirage... there's always post-production done in the studio that polishes the tone, etc...
Yeah, just like in the real world, there's a lot of BSers online who make incorrect claims and/or talk a big game.
At best, they mislead others and spread misinformation... and at worst, they get touted as some kind of tone and gear messiah.
Can't hear the clip because the link is gone.
Archer250
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Jesus Christ.
Don't even think of a T-Top.
Schenker played through a 4-hole 50-watt Marshall through 4x12s. I am fairly certain his volume settings never went below 7 or 8. Do you know how loud that is? That's "neighbors called the cops on me" loud.
A player's biggest contribution to his tone is his own fingers, but you will NOT be getting the sustain and authoritative punch/thump if you're just going with "T-Tops + 4 holer Marshall"
On the topic of vintage Marshalls, each of them is unique tonally. Sometimes, the factory will not have the "usual" components and they'll settle for substitutes. That's a rabbit hole in and of itself too.
The takeaway here? Don't worry too much. Get in the same ballpark with your own chops, THEN decide where to go from there tonally through your gear. Some players sound closer to a certain "sound" with a whole different gear than originally used.
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Jesus Christ.
Don't even think of a T-Top.
Schenker played through a 4-hole 50-watt Marshall through 4x12s. I am fairly certain his volume settings never went below 7 or 8. Do you know how loud that is? That's "neighbors called the cops on me" loud.
A player's biggest contribution to his tone is his own fingers, but you will NOT be getting the sustain and authoritative punch/thump if you're just going with "T-Tops + 4 holer Marshall"
On the topic of vintage Marshalls, each of them is unique tonally. Sometimes, the factory will not have the "usual" components and they'll settle for substitutes. That's a rabbit hole in and of itself too.
The takeaway here? Don't worry too much. Get in the same ballpark with your own chops, THEN decide where to go from there tonally through your gear. Some players sound closer to a certain "sound" with a whole different gear than originally used.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk
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Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
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I said the amp was more important. OP didn't want that answer. I, and others, said there were various pup options. OP didn't want that. Now he says it is a struggle to get one song, and he doesn't want to hear that and says that this post wasn't useful.
When there are 30 valid answers - and you fail - and then deny them all, the problem is indeed you. Or if you want expensive gear suggestions, and the # of Schenkers personal tech, fine. Still won't work - because that isn't the issue.
when you keep arguing with answers and then get upset with the truth, that's your issue man. But like you said - you'll keep trying, because maybe you don't want to succeed or I don't know what.
I said the amp was more important. OP didn't want that answer. I, and others, said there were various pup options. OP didn't want that. Now he says it is a struggle to get one song, and he doesn't want to hear that and says that this post wasn't useful.
When there are 30 valid answers - and you fail - and then deny them all, the problem is indeed you. Or if you want expensive gear suggestions, and the # of Schenkers personal tech, fine. Still won't work - because that isn't the issue.
when you keep arguing with answers and then get upset with the truth, that's your issue man. But like you said - you'll keep trying, because maybe you don't want to succeed or I don't know what.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: I Am Having a Custom Built Bridge !
Here is an example - and we already said this: Vintage Schenker is not a Custom. All wrong. But keep hoping. Maybe the magic tone fairy will show up and rewind it and replace the magnet while you sleep.
Guys here answered who all know a lot about pickups, and love Schenker. If you know more then go fix its and tell us all how to do it. Why are you asking us?
$10 says you never show up with the Uber-tone and say "Told you"
Here is an example - and we already said this: Vintage Schenker is not a Custom. All wrong. But keep hoping. Maybe the magic tone fairy will show up and rewind it and replace the magnet while you sleep.
Guys here answered who all know a lot about pickups, and love Schenker. If you know more then go fix its and tell us all how to do it. Why are you asking us?
$10 says you never show up with the Uber-tone and say "Told you"
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On another note I am going to build a little something like a plexi. I have the tubes and the transformers. I have built a SE amp but next is a push pull with 4 hole input.
$10 is fair mans bet bet Ace ,I would be willing to pay it yet I would be the judge. Don't get me wrong , you come on pretty strong. I am just asking. It will pass. Either way the pickup I get is in the works , if it hits the mark is unknown. I know what I want to hear from it. I don't expect the pickup to be Schenker in a box. Modern stuff is not exactly what I am after at the same time I guess just buying a T-Top on ebay would be easier and a lot faster.
Look , I get what you are saying Ace , not calling you out on it but at the same time I will still try to get where I am going , even though it may not work and I am going at it in a round about way. What I am getting at is I would like positive input if you have good info. So much nonsense on the net.I am just researching but of course the conversations were years ago so most people move on and I will to. I am not saying I don't want a plexi , I stated I had a 2205 briefly Michael use's those. The one I had when I got it home had almost been torn out of the chassis ( probably dropped) It was old and I was liking the lead channel but my old long gone JCM 900 DR 2 x 12 combo could do pretty good as well as my long gone JMD50w ( I know it has non tube pre amps) I ended up with 2 cheaper amps both lower wattage . EVH 5153 LBX and a Bugera V22.
On another note I am going to build a little something like a plexi. I have the tubes and the transformers. I have built a SE amp but next is a push pull with 4 hole input.
$10 is fair mans bet bet Ace ,I would be willing to pay it yet I would be the judge. Don't get me wrong , you come on pretty strong. I am just asking. It will pass. Either way the pickup I get is in the works , if it hits the mark is unknown. I know what I want to hear from it. I don't expect the pickup to be Schenker in a box. Modern stuff is not exactly what I am after at the same time I guess just buying a T-Top on ebay would be easier and a lot faster.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/eu1kilw7mp2w6bs/olitl072119.wav?dl=0
I have a bunch of the clips I saved , most have tons of mistakes. This one does to. It is my playing , I play it and give up for a while but always go back to it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eu1kilw7mp2w6bs/olitl072119.wav?dl=0
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