I freakin love the P-Rails

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****, now I have GAS. I have a one HB superstrat and I'm thinking about adding a neck HB to it. A p-rail would be sweet. What SD neck pup does the prail HB "mode" sound closest to? Oh and let me know how that 59'/custom A8 sounds like. I've dying to try a pg/custom A8.

The p-rail neck HB mode sounds like two different pickups, in parallel, it sounds very much like a jazz neck. In series, its much fatter - I have a pearly gates in the neck of my les paul and it sounds a lot like that - it has a lot of A2 warmth without actually being A2, think of an A5 neck pickup without scooped mids. It's hard to describe, because it's more open than the pearly gates, almost like if you crossed a p-90 and a PAF style humbucker. There's a lot of attack and harmonic complexity, like in a p-90, but there's a PAF smoothness that's there as well. Admittedly, I haven't tried the '59, Distortion, or any other comparable A5 neck humbuckers, but I don't think this sounds like any neck humbucker I've ever played. That being said, I highly doubt you'd be disappointed with it - it's amazing no matter how you slice it.

As for the A8 59/custom, the output is far greater than what you would expect from an 11.25k bridge humbucker - it's louder than the 14.4k Custom Custom I had in my strat a while back. In fact, it's louder than the 18+k P-rails in both my strat and my jazzmaster copy. The A8 magnet gives it some *insane* harmonics, and the mismatched coils give it a PAF vibe when the volume is rolled down.

Overall, I would say the A8 59/Custom is... unique. The high output makes it very touch sensitive - that is, until you play full out. It compresses the amp more than the pickup itself it compressed - let's take for example, the opening lick of thunderstruck. I can play it at a consistent volume without having to adjust my technique for the open-string pull offs, which doesn't usually happen without a booster pedal. Then, after that, I can play the chords and hear every string on the lester - something that usually only happens with low-output types. If you really lay into it, you can get a great singing sound, but if you back off, you can also get a very twangy and dynamic blues sound.

In fact, the closest any les paul came to a tele was when I was running the A8 59/custom in parallel...

At any rate, they're both pickups worth checking out. but I like the p-rails better than the A8 59/custom just because the p-rails has 4 distinct and usable sounds. In all fairness, I never split the 59/Custom, so I'm going to say YMMV just to be safe.

Good luck and happy tone hunting!
 
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You guys are killing me! I have a custom guitar build that's on hold because I can't get the bridge maker to call me back :banghead:

busu, how do you have your blender pot set up? What pickup switching arrangement are you using? Sounds like a pretty cool guitar.
 
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Welcome to the P-Rails club. I've been rocking mine for 8 months now and I'm still loving them!
 
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I originally went for a Prails N/N set in my semi hollow. I loved the neck, but found the bridge to thin but that is more a problem of the guitar than the pup. I am about to buy a prails B to put the in the semi.

I took out the prails in the bridge and swapped it into my LTD EC400 with a DMZ super distortion in the bridge. I wired it for series/p90 and arties coil swap. The coil swap modes are excellent, really gives two completely new tones. I seriously recommend trying this.

PRails have made my lust after more p90s.
 
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^finally, somebody's tried p-rails and coil swap!!!!! i've been asking about that the last few months. could you give an in depth review maybe?
 
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^finally, somebody's tried p-rails and coil swap!!!!! i've been asking about that the last few months. could you give an in depth review maybe?

With this, just bear in mind that the bridge is a dimarzio super distortion and the neck prails has been swapped to A5/A3. This is in a LTD EC400 les paul style guitar.

For the coil swap modes my favourite is with the neck rail which really surprised me. Compared to the Super D it is more open, a bit less gritty, but still very rock. When I first tried it I immediately thought of (dare I say it) the darkness I believe in a thing called love.

With the neck p90 it is a very full bassy sound but not boomy. Compared for to the super D I didnt find it very good for fast riffs on the low strings, but it was excellent for punching and holding one big chord.

The wiring diagram was kindly provided by Hermetico in this thread https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=161247

Have not really tried any lead stuff on either of them. This was my first coil swap guitar and I kinda hooked on the idea of one prials with a coil swap. Next may be PG neck and prails B.
 
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+100

I have my P-Rails in an HH Telecaster, and I LOVE them. I have the coil split wired up on a push/pull tone pot, but I need to install my other push/pull pot for selecting the p90 or rail when it's split.

-PT
 
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Man, it's been a while since I've seen this thread...

Still lovin' the p-rails though. I don't know how much of magic is in the degaussed magnet in the neck pickup, but I just love the combination of detail and humbucker meaty-ness. Well done Seymour, well done.
 
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Man, it's been a while since I've seen this thread...

Still lovin' the p-rails though. I don't know how much of magic is in the degaussed magnet in the neck pickup, but I just love the combination of detail and humbucker meaty-ness. Well done Seymour, well done.

I brought this thread back after searching the forum. I was going to start a new thread on the P-Rails but i figured this was a good one. Very impressed with this pup. Its the only pup on my guitar and i have it wired to a 3 way toggle switch so i can get the single coil rail,P90 and Humbucker modes. Awesome tones from Blues/Jazz to Metal!!!
 
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