Dr. Vegetable
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Re: i never realized how stupid of a design the strat has until...
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i never realized how stupid of a design the strat has until...
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JeffB
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Hated it for 20 years, plus. Once I started playing a strat exclusively for a couple years, I ended up loving it, and it is still the most ergonomic layout there is AFAIC...that goes for the whole guitar really.
When it was designed, it was not made for morons bashing away at the bridge. It was designed for precise picking. I am unfortunately in the former camp. But I got used to it.
Hated it for 20 years, plus. Once I started playing a strat exclusively for a couple years, I ended up loving it, and it is still the most ergonomic layout there is AFAIC...that goes for the whole guitar really.
When it was designed, it was not made for morons bashing away at the bridge. It was designed for precise picking. I am unfortunately in the former camp. But I got used to it.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
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Same here, took a while to learn to bash precisely
Same here, took a while to learn to bash precisely
crusty philtrum
Vintageologist
Re: i never realized how stupid of a design the strat has until...
I wish you people would make up your minds .... when i read the opening post, i set fire to my three Strats. They're burning nicely at the moment, but there might still be time to put them out
I wish you people would make up your minds .... when i read the opening post, i set fire to my three Strats. They're burning nicely at the moment, but there might still be time to put them out
JeffB
Let it B
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Worked for Jimi.
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Worked for Jimi.
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LReese
Sausage Gravy
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All you need to do is rewire for a master volume and tone and put the volume in the neck tone position. Get a new pickguard set up for master tone/volume if the extra hole bothers you.
Modularity - The genius of the Fender designs.
All you need to do is rewire for a master volume and tone and put the volume in the neck tone position. Get a new pickguard set up for master tone/volume if the extra hole bothers you.
Modularity - The genius of the Fender designs.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
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You guys are funny.
"It was designed for precise picking and volume swells!"
Really? I don't get that impression.
To me, it's obvious that the Strat was designed by a guy who never, in his wildest dreams, had any notion that a player might want to dampen the strings with the side of their palm while they played.
Look at a vintage strat bridge with the cover plate on it.
Look at this thing!
And you take that off (because I think that's what every strat player in existence immediately did without exception), and it's just a forest of sharp metal edges and jaggy screws. The original stamped-saddle Strat bridge is behind the curtain. We weren't meant to play with that stuff exposed. And if you don't - if you leave the cover on, the volume knob isn't even close to where your hand winds up. But you also can't palm mute. Physically can't do it.
You guys are funny.
"It was designed for precise picking and volume swells!"
Really? I don't get that impression.
To me, it's obvious that the Strat was designed by a guy who never, in his wildest dreams, had any notion that a player might want to dampen the strings with the side of their palm while they played.
Look at a vintage strat bridge with the cover plate on it.
Look at this thing!
And you take that off (because I think that's what every strat player in existence immediately did without exception), and it's just a forest of sharp metal edges and jaggy screws. The original stamped-saddle Strat bridge is behind the curtain. We weren't meant to play with that stuff exposed. And if you don't - if you leave the cover on, the volume knob isn't even close to where your hand winds up. But you also can't palm mute. Physically can't do it.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
Unseen
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Sissy.......
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Sissy.......
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GoldenVulture
Braindeadologist
Re: i never realized how stupid of a design the strat has until...
Some one who didn't actually play guitar.
Some one who didn't actually play guitar.
Re: i never realized how stupid of a design the strat has until...
+1.
That's why Fender sells so many more Jazzmasters than Strats. And why so many other companies sell Jazzmaster copies instead of Strat replicas.
Jeff Beck, SRV, Rory Gallagher, Eric Johnson, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Yngwie Malmsteen, David Gilmour - all victims of that horrible volume knob position on the Strat. Notice how many of those guys specified a different position for the volume knob on their signature guitars.
+1.
That's why Fender sells so many more Jazzmasters than Strats. And why so many other companies sell Jazzmaster copies instead of Strat replicas.
Jeff Beck, SRV, Rory Gallagher, Eric Johnson, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Yngwie Malmsteen, David Gilmour - all victims of that horrible volume knob position on the Strat. Notice how many of those guys specified a different position for the volume knob on their signature guitars.
ItsaBass
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fwiw, i play mine, and my teles, with the covers on most of the time. you learn to mute that way in time; it isn't physically impossible. just different, and harder.
You guys are funny.
"It was designed for precise picking and volume swells!"
Really? I don't get that impression.
To me, it's obvious that the Strat was designed by a guy who never, in his wildest dreams, had any notion that a player might want to dampen the strings with the side of their palm while they played.
Look at a vintage strat bridge with the cover plate on it.
Look at this thing!
And you take that off (because I think that's what every strat player in existence immediately did without exception), and it's just a forest of sharp metal edges and jaggy screws. The original stamped-saddle Strat bridge is behind the curtain. We weren't meant to play with that stuff exposed. And if you don't - if you leave the cover on, the volume knob isn't even close to where your hand winds up. But you also can't palm mute. Physically can't do it.
fwiw, i play mine, and my teles, with the covers on most of the time. you learn to mute that way in time; it isn't physically impossible. just different, and harder.
JordanM82
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Re: i never realized how stupid of a design the strat has until...
+1 , said exactly what was on my mind... I play a strat with a standard stamped saddle bridge (Callaham) and standard volume knob placement and I wouldn't have it ANY other way. It feels perfect to me and apparently to a huge number of other guitarist and a huge number of our guitar heroes over the past 50 years or so.
+1 , said exactly what was on my mind... I play a strat with a standard stamped saddle bridge (Callaham) and standard volume knob placement and I wouldn't have it ANY other way. It feels perfect to me and apparently to a huge number of other guitarist and a huge number of our guitar heroes over the past 50 years or so.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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And the bridge on say a LP is more comfy??
Yeah yeah.....have played on those things(strat) in a lifetime now....lotsa ways to avoid getting uncomfy.
And the bridge on say a LP is more comfy??
Yeah yeah.....have played on those things(strat) in a lifetime now....lotsa ways to avoid getting uncomfy.
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ratherdashing
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I grew up with a Strat and have zero issues with the bridge or the volume knob, but I can definitely understand how some might not like those features.
On my non-Strat guitars, I actually resent having to reach over to adjust the volume.
I grew up with a Strat and have zero issues with the bridge or the volume knob, but I can definitely understand how some might not like those features.
On my non-Strat guitars, I actually resent having to reach over to adjust the volume.
wahwah
GumbyLoveologist
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Yeah, true...but I think audiences like seeing the blood dripping from the heel of the hand...it shows a certain level of commitment.
As for the volume control, I was fine with it until you guys brought it up. Now I'm going to have to obsess over it for a while and add it to the list of minutiae that distract me from actually playing the guitar. Great thread, thanks a lot.
Cheers...................................... wahwah
Yeah, true...but I think audiences like seeing the blood dripping from the heel of the hand...it shows a certain level of commitment.
As for the volume control, I was fine with it until you guys brought it up. Now I'm going to have to obsess over it for a while and add it to the list of minutiae that distract me from actually playing the guitar. Great thread, thanks a lot.
Cheers...................................... wahwah
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