I now own one of the coolest guitars ever made: one-off 1938 Gretsch Prototype. Pics!

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Make me play it? You'll get very tired of hearing the exact same rockabilly riffs in different keys for hours on end. I mean, in those old 50s recordings (Elvis and stuff), it's the exact same thing over and over. They just add so much bass and reverb and vocals on top that you can't even tell! Subtract that though, and it gets boring, fast. :)

But you're right, that's as far as I went. I still have my Sparkly Tele (1/250), the Duo Jet (1/thousands), the Green Buddy (1/1) and now this (1/1). Not a terrible lineup. :) And the strat, but who cares about that? lol

I'm lucky to live in an eBay world. None of this would have been possible without eBay.

Oh and the Green Buddy will simply not ever be sold.
 
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oh my god... Now I understand why you were selling everything.
 
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she'll make you a better player. You'll be doing all kinds of Jazz chords and stuff. Very nice guitar, congrats. Just get a nice bridge pickup and stick it on.
 
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No way! Congrats.

Where do you live and at what time are you away from home?
 
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You know all the while I was thinking of that One-off Epi you had. That was cool too.

Yeah, she was a beauty, but we never had a connection (sorta like a really hot chick that only talks about shoes all the time). Fun to play with for a while, but gets boring fast.

Your guitar on the other hand, is a guitar that knows what she is doing, with character and experience ; the kind that can show you a few tricks and make you learn something about yourself.

You are one of the only people I know that can say : " Yeah, that vintage goldtop is nice, but check this out....."
 
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now that is a really nice collectors piece for sure..... take good care of it!!!
 
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she'll make you a better player. You'll be doing all kinds of Jazz chords and stuff. Very nice guitar, congrats. Just get a nice bridge pickup and stick it on.

Thanks Jerry! Figured it wouldn't exactly be your style. And I'm definitely not going to ever modify the guitar, but I will be sticking on an old DeArmond Microphone, probably this one.

No way! Congrats.

Where do you live and at what time are you away from home?

:) I'm in San Pedro, and I'm gone from 7:30-5:30 every day.

Yeah, she was a beauty, but we never had a connection (sorta like a really hot chick that only talks about shoes all the time). Fun to play with for a while, but gets boring fast.

Your guitar on the other hand, is a guitar that knows what she is doing, with character and experience ; the kind that can show you a few tricks and make you learn something about yourself.

You are one of the only people I know that can say : " Yeah, that vintage goldtop is nice, but check this out....."

lol Gotcha. I can understand that (about the Epi). And I'm pretty sure the Goldtop owner will think his is cooler! ;) Not me though. Well, I dunno, maybe

now that is a really nice collectors piece for sure..... take good care of it!!!

Thanks dude! Very much

I've got an identical thread over on The Gretsch Pages and they're friggin stunned by it, which is good. A few people were bidding on it too. They're just happy it stayed "in-house" though (TGP is responsible for probably 75% of eBay's Gretsch purchases).
 
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Very cool guitar thats quite one of a kind!

I've always loved those Synchromatic style looks, just so classic and timeless. Never was that big of fan of how they sounded though I've got to be honest. Just depends on your style though as no doubt for some stuff they probably kill with some flatwounds

Will look forward to hearing more about it as time goes on though.
 
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Man, that thing just oozes mojo. I'll bet she's going to sound as good as it looks, congrats!
 
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Beautiful guitar! She has aged well, I had to look trice to believe that she's 70!

How does she sound?
 
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i dont know why people are so concerned about you giving up your les paul... this thing is a one of a kind! and its georgous. You can get another les paul anywhere, even vintage ones will never be as cool at that. Congrats, that thing is a work of art

It's a beautiful instrument.

But I think the going price for it is very telling in regards to the collectors aspect of it. Any instrument with that pedigree going up for sale publicly should garner an incredible amount of interest from collectors and enthusiasts. The hope is that interest in Gretsch instruments, and ones from that era, will continue and the value will go up.

An instrument is rare because there are very few like it. But they become valuable because many want it.

Still, the Les Paul was just a Studio that had been mangled beyond recognition. Short of a refin to being it back to original spec it was likely not much more valuable than any other thrashed Studio out there on the market.

now that is a really nice collectors piece for sure..... take good care of it!!!

For something that old I would be concerned about being able to provide a safe haven for it in the long-term. I've seen what the climate can do to an acoustic of less than 20 years. Something like that has all the makings of a story like Jacos upright detonating from the humidity in Miami.
 
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Is this a guitar? Or is this a retirement fund with strings? Seriously dude. If you learn to take care of it, and preserve it for 40 years - how much would it cost after that time?

BTW: What a beauty!
 
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Very cool guitar thats quite one of a kind!

I've always loved those Synchromatic style looks, just so classic and timeless. Never was that big of fan of how they sounded though I've got to be honest. Just depends on your style though as no doubt for some stuff they probably kill with some flatwounds

Will look forward to hearing more about it as time goes on though.

Thanks mills! Like I said before, if it sounds tolerable I'll be pleased. But it should sound very good.

Man, that thing just oozes mojo. I'll bet she's going to sound as good as it looks, congrats!

Thanks Ryan! Appreciate it. Mojo is fun. :)

Beautiful guitar! She has aged well, I had to look trice to believe that she's 70!

How does she sound?

Don't know how she sounds, won't get here until next week at the earliest. There's two packages coming (the guitar in a new case, and the original case in another package), and he's shipping both parcel post (2-9 days).

It's a beautiful instrument.

But I think the going price for it is very telling in regards to the collectors aspect of it. Any instrument with that pedigree going up for sale publicly should garner an incredible amount of interest from collectors and enthusiasts. The hope is that interest in Gretsch instruments, and ones from that era, will continue and the value will go up.

An instrument is rare because there are very few like it. But they become valuable because many want it.

Still, the Les Paul was just a Studio that had been mangled beyond recognition. Short of a refin to being it back to original spec it was likely not much more valuable than any other thrashed Studio out there on the market.

For something that old I would be concerned about being able to provide a safe haven for it in the long-term. I've seen what the climate can do to an acoustic of less than 20 years. Something like that has all the makings of a story like Jacos upright detonating from the humidity in Miami.

Glad you think it's pretty, Skarey! You're right, the Gem had sadly been pretty beat up (not by me), and although I did make a profit, it wasn't worth a whole lot more than other studios.

About the value - I talked to Aaron and there were over 50 watchers. That's a crapload. I've talked to people on The Gretsch Pages, and almost every single one of them was watching and wanted to bid. On the Les Paul forums, there's dozens of fantastic vintage guitars for sale, none getting sold. This time last year, there were about 50-70 vintage Gretsches on eBay at any one time. Now there's approximately 20-30.

My point is that the entire market is slumping, heavily. Nothing is selling, because people simply don't have the money. I think once the market rebounds, you'll see vintage guitars selling a whole lot more, and for a whole lot more. If you look across the board, stuff is cheaper at the moment.

Still $1,500 is more than most Synchromatics, because Synchros don't have that great a following. I'm positive that (as frantic says below) it'll increase in value, quite a bit. Retirement fund? Probably not. I don't want to guess a value, because you're exactly right it's all how much someone is willing to pay. But the source of all Gretsch knowledge over at the Gretsch Pages agrees it's a prototype (due to lots of things, most notably the serial number), and so if I ever needed to sell, I'm confident I could find a buyer who is as interested as myself. Any Gretsch enthusiast/historian would pay big bucks, but just at the moment none of them did have money.

Short example, this time last year, this guitar would fetch close to $5,000. Now? Not even close.

Oh and about keeping it in good shape, that's a great point. I do need to keep it controlled. Luckily, I live in a relatively dry climate, but not too dry either. The guitar has A) survived 70 years and B) much of that was in Seattle and Denver, so I'm not entirely worried about it turning to dust on me. Doesn't mean I won't be taking care of it though.

Is this a guitar? Or is this a retirement fund with strings? Seriously dude. If you learn to take care of it, and preserve it for 40 years - how much would it cost after that time?

BTW: What a beauty!

Thank you very much! Like I just said, I'm not sure it's retirement fund worthy, but it'll be alright. I'm not sure I'll ever get tired of staring at that headstock though. :)
 
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Pretty darned cool, Al. I've always wanted to see one in person.

Is it sitting in an Epi Dot case?
 
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About the value - I talked to Aaron and there were over 50 watchers. That's a crapload. I've talked to people on The Gretsch Pages, and almost every single one of them was watching and wanted to bid. On the Les Paul forums, there's dozens of fantastic vintage guitars for sale, none getting sold. This time last year, there were about 50-70 vintage Gretsches on eBay at any one time. Now there's approximately 20-30.

My point is that the entire market is slumping, heavily. Nothing is selling, because people simply don't have the money. I think once the market rebounds, you'll see vintage guitars selling a whole lot more, and for a whole lot more. If you look across the board, stuff is cheaper at the moment.

50 "watchers" isn't all that many, especially for something that would constitute the pedigree an early prototype should have. I think a bass I sold recently came in at 30 "watchers" and the auction ended with the BIN three days in.

The market is slumping. It makes for a good bet that something will likely climb in value. But what would concern me is that for what it is, you got it alot cheaper than I would feel good about regarding the desirability. While Gretsch collectors aren't as numerous as Gibson or Fender collectors they're just as good about opening their wallets when something comes out of the woodwork, which is what I would constitute this instrument as being.

Please take the time and read up on taking care of a hollowbody and use either a case or a regulated room humidifier with it. You do have a piece of history there, and it is susceptible to some major damage from neglect.
 
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50 "watchers" isn't all that many, especially for something that would constitute the pedigree an early prototype should have. I think a bass I sold recently came in at 30 "watchers" and the auction ended with the BIN three days in.

The market is slumping. It makes for a good bet that something will likely climb in value. But what would concern me is that for what it is, you got it alot cheaper than I would feel good about regarding the desirability. While Gretsch collectors aren't as numerous as Gibson or Fender collectors they're just as good about opening their wallets when something comes out of the woodwork, which is what I would constitute this instrument as being.

Please take the time and read up on taking care of a hollowbody and use either a case or a regulated room humidifier with it. You do have a piece of history there, and it is susceptible to some major damage from neglect.

"With great power comes great responsibility", lmfao.

And by power, I mean the power to rock the guitar universe with that thing.
 
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Really nice man. Congrats :)
 
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Pretty darned cool, Al. I've always wanted to see one in person.

Is it sitting in an Epi Dot case?

Thanks Captain! The purple case is the old original one, the new one is black, and I don't know the brand or anything.

50 "watchers" isn't all that many, especially for something that would constitute the pedigree an early prototype should have. I think a bass I sold recently came in at 30 "watchers" and the auction ended with the BIN three days in.

The market is slumping. It makes for a good bet that something will likely climb in value. But what would concern me is that for what it is, you got it alot cheaper than I would feel good about regarding the desirability. While Gretsch collectors aren't as numerous as Gibson or Fender collectors they're just as good about opening their wallets when something comes out of the woodwork, which is what I would constitute this instrument as being.

Please take the time and read up on taking care of a hollowbody and use either a case or a regulated room humidifier with it. You do have a piece of history there, and it is susceptible to some major damage from neglect.

Could be! I mean, it's all speculative really. I don't know why it sold so cheaply. It's certainly not the lack of 'cool' factor or lack of 'collectible' factor. One dude in particular on GDP (The Gretsch Pages) that I talked to in private said he wanted to put in a max bid of around $2,500 2 weeks ago, but something came up and he couldn't swing it. And the resident Gretsch expert there - the one that corroborated its prototypity - is already kicking himself for not buying it.

I think it's just a situation where I got lucky. I won't ever lose money on it, unless it gets damaged/stolen/burned. And even then, I'm buying insurance today. So I won't lose money.

Will do on reading about hollowbody care, thank you! Any other tips?

"With great power comes great responsibility", lmfao.

And by power, I mean the power to rock the guitar universe with that thing.

lol! I don't know how much 'Universe Rocking' there'll be, but I can guarantee you'll get some 'Universe Toe Tapping' from it. :)

Really nice man. Congrats :)

Thank you!
 
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I think you should give it a name.
 
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