I seriously screwed up. Need help.

[BeKindRewind]

I stripped that hole there that the saddle goes into. Overtightened the screw a little too much and then it was spin city.

Can this be fixed? It's an OFR so it would suck to replace the entire bridge but I guess it's 26 years old. I can't intonate the guitar properly without using that there screw hole unfortunately.


I have a Takeuchi Floyd pro in another guitar I am considering "borrowing " for now. This sucks

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[shupe13]

Re: I seriously screwed up. Need help.

Get a micro tap and die kit. Probably less than $20.

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[Chris Pile]

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Metric....

 

[BeKindRewind]

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Really ? If it's that simple I'll be so happy. Ill give that a shot. Thanks guys

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[Dave Locher]

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The hole stripped, not the screw, correct?
You will likely have to tap the hole for a slightly bigger screw.

 

[BeKindRewind]

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Yes that's correct. It's the hole, not the screw. As long as that salvages the bridge that'll be fine but not sure where I'd find said slightly larger screw

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[AlexR]

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^ Specialist screw shop.
Go in with what you have and ask for a fractionally larger size that has a tap for same.

 

[nexion218]

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If all else fails, you can change the baseplate only. Measurements shoukd be the same, but be sure to check if it comes to it. Still the fraction of the price of the whole unit and you get to retain most of the old skewl looks&parts

 

[Gtrjunior]

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You can buy a new baseplate and not have to replace the entire unit


https://floydrose.com/products/frotbp

Not super cheap but....

 

[BeKindRewind]

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^ Specialist screw shop.
Go in with what you have and ask for a fractionally larger size that has a tap for same.

Ok I guess I'll disassemble and just bring it to a machine shop . They'll know what to do and I can't see them charging a hell of a lot to tap out one thread.

Honestly would be nice to put a base plate on it (fresh knife edges and all that) but I never use the whammy anyway so that's gonna be my last resort. Thanks for the tips so far guys

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[ItsaBass]

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Without more intensive surgery, a drill bit, a tap, a tap handle, a little oil, and a new screw are all you need. It's incredibly easy work; I would not take it anywhere. Try McMaster-Carr.

Here are your screws (the black version): https://www.mcmaster.com/screws/rou...ric-alloy-steel-button-head-hex-drive-screws/

 

[Masta' C]

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That's a Schaller Floyd, not an OFR, BTW. Just an FYI, LOL!

Notorious problem on Schallers. They began putting threaded steel inserts in the baseplate in the '90s, but they can still strip out with enough force.

As has been said, best bet is to tap with a slightly bigger thread and use a new bolt. Chances of the bigger bolt stripping out are also less.

Worst case, you can find new baseplates for around $80 or so.

 

[idsnowdog]

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I was able to rethread some holes that had rusted and then used a slightly larger diameter screw from ACE.

 

[nexion218]

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One more thing: make sure that the saddle has enough space for the bigger screw!

 

[ehdwuld]

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One more thing: make sure that the saddle has enough space for the bigger screw!

that what I was thinking
the larger screw theory has that one flaw

weld up the hole and retap it to the correct size


replace baseplate

 

[Gtrjunior]

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The downside to welding the hole is that the finish needs to be removed from the weld area. You would have to sand off a small area down to bare metal, fill with weld, sand smooth then drill and tap a new hole.

It’s the best, most permanent fix but it won’t look like a factory fresh Floyd anymore.

 

[BeKindRewind]

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That's a Schaller Floyd, not an OFR, BTW. Just an FYI, LOL!

Notorious problem on Schallers. They began putting threaded steel inserts in the baseplate in the '90s, but they can still strip out with enough force.

As has been said, best bet is to tap with a slightly bigger thread and use a new bolt. Chances of the bigger bolt stripping out are also less.

Worst case, you can find new baseplates for around $80 or so.

Aha, I thought they were the same thing ? Schaller makes the OFRs anyway right ? So if they're different hrmm. Is an OFR replacement base plate gonna fit ?

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[The_Junior]

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I'm down with a replacement baseplate idea. Although if it were me, I'm facilitated to drill/tap for a larger metric setscrew. you would probably have to grind away the beveled areas on the saddle to accommodate the size of the bolt head.

I'm certain you can find a replacement baseplate on reverb/ebay for not a whole lot of coin.

 

[ehdwuld]

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Aha, I thought they were the same thing ? Schaller makes the OFRs anyway right ? So if they're different hrmm. Is an OFR replacement base plate gonna fit ?

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looks like the Schaller version is less expensive to replace

 

[Masta' C]

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Schaller makes the OFRs anyway right ? So if they're different hrmm. Is an OFR replacement base plate gonna fit ?

Schaller does make the real German-made OFR. However, the original "Schaller" baseplates like you have (thicker, cast plates with knife-edge inserts rather than one-piece construction) are different and not directly compatible from an intonation perspective. The offset of the knife edges is something like 1/16" or 1/8" different relative to the saddles, so using an OFR in place of the Schaller may not allow the adjustment range you need to achieve proper intonation. Also, the string clamping screws (the long ones that extend through the back of the bridge) are thicker on the Schaller and won't slide through the openings on an OFR baseplate.

The newer "Lockmeister" by Schaller is a more proper OFR copy with a thinner, one-piece steel basplate that is compatible with all OFR parts and routs.

On the plus side, replacement plates for the old-school "Schaller" Floyds are typically less expensive. Also, look under your bridge...if you don't see small steel inserts molded into the bridge for the saddle clamping screws, then reach out to Schaller with pics and they may replace the baseplate for free as the non-insert variety were notorious for stripping out and I've seen a number of people get them replaced at no cost.