I think I found my cab...

[Aceman]

So this just popped up on CL:
https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/msg/d/clearwater-marshall-1960ac-100-watt/7602191505.html


I have not heard of this 16ohm, mono 100watt thing.
However, I do love my Mesa on 50 Watts. And on my Pod Go, I do love the 25 watt Greenbacks for pretty much every amp head setting.

So talk to me - I know my Mesa puts either 4 or 8 ohms out, so no worries pushing 16.

But what can you tell me about this thing?
- Slant front
- 4x12
- 25 watt green backs
- Could handle 100 watts mono?
- Wheels!
- Decent shape
- $600
- Marshall


Is it me?

 

[Securb]

I am no Marshall guru, but don't they typically put the mono input on the less expensive cabs? And I am assuming the Greenbacks are after-market, correct?

 

[Aceman]

I am no Marshall guru, but don't they typically put the mono input on the less expensive cabs? And I am assuming the Greenbacks are after-market, correct?

Me neither, this asking. It does say "1960" on the badge.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

They did use the mono jack on the 1960C's, which came stock with Greenbacks.

And the badge says it's a 1960 Classic. So it's legit.

Those are less well-known cabs because they soon replaced them with the 1960X's. But they're just 1960X's with the standard 1960 looks.

Love Greenbacks in a Marshall cab. I changed the speakers in mine like 5 times, LOL. I finally settled in a pair of British Greenbacks mixed with a pair of Chinese Greenbacks, LOL.

 

[DankStar]

I’d verify the greenbacks and offer $550

 

[chadd]

They did use the mono jack on the 1960C's, which came stock with Greenbacks.

And the badge says it's a 1960 Classic. So it's legit.

Those are less well-known cabs because they soon replaced them with the 1960X's. But they're just 1960X's with the standard 1960 looks.

Love Greenbacks in a Marshall cab. I changed the speakers in mine like 5 times, LOL. I finally settled in a pair of British Greenbacks mixed with a pair of Chinese Greenbacks, LOL.

I had one of those, my favorite cab of all time. Only sold it because I was moving to a tiny apartment on a small island.

 

[Aceman]

I had one of those, my favorite cab of all time. Only sold it because I was moving to a tiny apartment on a small island.

I need to move to a tiny house on a small island...

 

[JMP/HBE]

Watts is right ohms is not. . Look elsewhere. ohms would work w/a 8 ohm mismatch but would sound funky.
New cabs can be had for $600
FWIW Mesa amps work best with Mesa cabs.

 

[Aceman]

Watts is right ohms is not. .
Look elsewhere. ohms would work w/a 8 ohm mismatch but would sound funky.
New cabs can be had for $600
FWIW Mesa amps work best with Mesa cabs.

Clarify what "right" means please

Explain the nature of Funky. Pretty sure you don't mean Bootsy collins...Funky how?

From where? https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...inch-angled-extension-cabinet-with-greenbacks

FWIW - the only "works" I care about is how it sounds. I dig the Green backs. I have used - mind you - only models, but Marshall (multiple), Mesa, Peavey, and Soldano. I like the 4x12 Greenback 25 no matter what. I can and will take my Mesa to test it - and my Mesa is a Marshal "killer" Mesa, so not a triple recto or anything like that.

Please elaborate.

 

[Securb]

Clarify what "right" means please

I was thinking the same thing. Any cab with the proper ohm rating and wattage handling will work. Dare I say there are probably cabs out there that would sound better (depending on your preferences) that do not have a MESA tag on them.

 

[beaubrummels]

I didn't see anywhere in the ad where it mentioned the ohms. But even my Marshalls don't say the same ohms between the head and the cab. The head has 4-8-16 and the cabs all say 4(16) ohms.

I'm not getting the 100W Mono advertising hype, like it's some rare bird. A 4x12 greenback cab is 100W mono, so what? It's just a standard cab.

Seems like a decent deal on a Marshall greenback cab.

 

[JMP/HBE]

Clarify what "right" means please

Explain the nature of Funky. Pretty sure you don't mean Bootsy collins...Funky how?

From where? https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...inch-angled-extension-cabinet-with-greenbacks

FWIW - the only "works" I care about is how it sounds. I dig the Green backs. I have used - mind you - only models, but Marshall (multiple), Mesa, Peavey, and Soldano. I like the 4x12 Greenback 25 no matter what. I can and will take my Mesa to test it - and my Mesa is a Marshal "killer" Mesa, so not a triple recto or anything like that.

Please elaborate.

God you are a problem child eh ? Must i hold your hand everytime i make a post ? Have fun with your dilemma.

 

[Aceman]

God you are a problem child eh ? Must i hold your hand everytime i make a post ? Have fun with your dilemma.

Thanks for being unhelpful.

I'm sorry you can't communicate better.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

If you're looking for a solidly built cab that's Marshall-y, comes with Greenback-y speakers, and is not too expensive, also have a look at the EVH cabs. Those are good, and the EVH speakers are fantastic.

More attainable in this side of the pond than Marshall, and slightly better built, IMO.

 

[dave74]

If they are 16ohm greens wired series/parallel mono then you are in business. Stiletto Duece has the 16ohm out so it would match perfect.
Tonewise I still say you need to find a mesa stilerro/traditional,,,,,,but I can see wanting that big Marshall cab/logo for an 80's party-metal band.

 

[Aceman]

If they are 16ohm greens wired series/parallel mono then you are in business. Stiletto Duece has the 16ohm out so it would match perfect.
Tonewise I still say you need to find a mesa stilerro/traditional,,,,,,but I can see wanting that big Marshall cab/logo for an 80's party-metal band.

Or just because I like the sound. Either way.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

I prefer the tone of 16 ohm cabs and speakers, personally.

The speakers are brighter, and it uses more windings on the amp's transformers, so I always felt like it squeezes just a touch more out of the amp.

JMO.

 

[Aceman]

I prefer the tone of 16 ohm cabs and speakers, personally.

The speakers are brighter, and it uses more windings on the amp's transformers, so I always felt like it squeezes just a touch more out of the amp.

JMO.

I don't know what the impact is. I do know the amp needs to see more resistance on the end than is coming out. So, no blowing things up!

But what happens sonically when you go 4>8, or 8>16, or even 4>16...no idea.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

Oh, no idea either. I know Mesa encourages to try impedance mismatches, but I wouldn't be comfortable with that.

I've never had any of my amps blow up by accidentally mismatching the impedance, but I also felt the amps didn't sound as good they could when actually matching the impedance.

Then again, none of my amps have been Mesa.

 

[dave74]

As long as the mismatch has the cab at higher ohms than the amp's output it just results in the amp running cooler.
Cooler means darker with more sag, so no harm at all but most will prefer the punch of a correct match,

The amp's output impedance and the cab's total impedance has much less impact on tone then the impedance of the individual speakers being used.

Two 8ohm v30 in series will be 16ohm total, but they will still have the 8ohm v30 tone.
Two 16ohm v30 in parallel will be an 8ohm total, but will still have the 16ohm v30 tone.