I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

You two must be new around here.

The first assumption is 5/8” Baltic Birch because that is what quality cabs are made from. The second is style of construction and the internal volume are the same. So my point is still a cab is cab is a cab. You want a Marshall sound, you need a floating baffle. You want a Bogner or Splawn, fixed baffle and so on.

I'm not at all saying Marshall cabs are inferior (structurally or sonicaly), I just think they price them a few hundred high compared to what's available on the market today.

No matter what style of construction or what model of speaker one wants, it can be had elsewhere (other than Marshall) for a lot less $,,,,,,,but of course it won't have that Marshall logo.

Also,,,,, just to be in-context this is a thread about what cab would match super-awesomely with a Mesa Stiletto.(which was of course was factory matched with a Mesa Stiletto cab and most likely designed/voiced with it)
Avatar, Orange, Mesa, Emperor,,,,all heavy somewhat "dark"-toned cabs.
 
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Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

Maybe my point wasn’t clear, and if so I apologize.

Assuming you know how any cab is built, Mesa, Marshall, whatever. As long as you copy the same construction style, material and internal volume, you get the same sound (or within spec)

So I was saying that if Ace likes the sound of the current cab, just get the same design. The name is irrelevant.

Anyone buying a new Marshall cab for the current prices need thier head examined. The construction is the same from about ‘71 thru today (minor changes), so plenty used out there. Marshall changed to that horrid black heat glue with the 900 series cabs, so avoid those if you plan to recover them.
 
Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

Maybe my point wasn’t clear, and if so I apologize.

Assuming you know how any cab is built, Mesa, Marshall, whatever. As long as you copy the same construction style, material and internal volume, you get the same sound (or within spec)

So I was saying that if Ace likes the sound of the current cab, just get the same design. The name is irrelevant.

Anyone buying a new Marshall cab for the current prices need thier head examined. The construction is the same from about ‘71 thru today (minor changes), so plenty used out there. Marshall changed to that horrid black heat glue with the 900 series cabs, so avoid those if you plan to recover them.

True. I get what your saying now.
 
Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

Maybe my point wasn’t clear, and if so I apologize.

Assuming you know how any cab is built, Mesa, Marshall, whatever. As long as you copy the same construction style, material and internal volume, you get the same sound (or within spec)

So I was saying that if Ace likes the sound of the current cab, just get the same design. The name is irrelevant.

Anyone buying a new Marshall cab for the current prices need thier head examined. The construction is the same from about ‘71 thru today (minor changes), so plenty used out there. Marshall changed to that horrid black heat glue with the 900 series cabs, so avoid those if you plan to recover them.

Agreed. Got your point now.
 
Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

I agree. It’s a bit pricey, but it is wide enough to support a full size head, and it comes from a well respected builder.

I’ll eventually get one to match my HR 25 head, though.


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Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

I like the Mesa cabs. My all-time fav is the 412 Half-Back cab. I have two; one loaded with C90s in the open top and EVMs in the closed bottom. The other is all EVMs--it weighs 2.2 kilotons, but sounds AWESOME and can easily handle the full power of my 180-watt Mark III. Never gigged with it, but used the C90/EVM cab extensively. I like how the bottom delivers the projection, yet the top provides the ambience. These cabs are small for a 412.

The 212 Halfback is great, and it is a big 212. Mine has the C90 in the top and the Eminence-made Black Shadow MS-12 in a closed, ported bottom. It sounds huge and has all the benefits of the 412, at 3/4 size.

The current version is the Mesa 212 Vertical Recto with V30s. Mesa does voice the Stiletto to the V30. Not sure, but you might be able to order this cab with the open back top.

The 212 V30 Horizontal Recto is another great cab. I like to use mine under my Maverick 212 combo for a low-power halfstack. I like the Vertical a little better with a head because it puts the controls at eye-level. I've seen a guy use two of the Horizontals for a more portable, "modular" halfstack. Smart.

The Mesa 412 Recto is over-sized, but an integral part of the 'Recto" sound. The now discontinued 412 Traditional cab is smaller, and that means less bass. Closer to the 1960 cab, but still a little larger than the 412 Halfback.

When I bought my Mark V C90 combo, I knew I would want a 112 extension and opted for the Thiele-ported 112 Wide-Body Closed Back cab, and chose a V30 speaker for it. I actually like this combo better than the head and 412 Recto. I'm a big fan of the Mesa Mark III and IV combos with the 112 EVM Thiele...a concept drawn from the Halfback 412 and 212. The Road King cab carries this concept forward in a L/R configuration. Never tried one, but I'd bet I'd like it.

The Mesa cabs are durable and well-built, and I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.

I have some other favorites. I always liked the Peavey MS 412 cab. Another solid choice, but you may want to experiment with speakers. (The original PV 5150 cabs are pretty good too...very Marshall-esque.) Find a good deal on one of these PV cabs, and it could be a great value.

The mid-'60s small box Fender Bassman and Bandmaster cabs are fantastic cabs. I've used them with JBL, Eminence, CTS, Celestion, Jensens, Oxfords and EVMs and they have always been great. And Tilt-Back legs! If you enjoy 15" speakers, the small 112, 115, and 215 JBL Showman cabs are also wonderful! (As is the latter big Showman 215.) But you don't wanna move that one!

And I would think think that, depending on speakers and condition, that 1936 Marshall with the flight case is not a bad deal.

Have fun and enjoy the journey. Hope you find something great.

Bill
 
Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

A Peavey 5150 is an intriguing option Bill, and perhaps available at a bargain....

In the interim, I actually spent some cab money on an Amp (oops)
 
Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

I'd buy that 1936 off Craigslist and rock the heck out of it. I actually didn't mind the GT75's in my old Marshall cab, paired with 2 V30's. That 1936 looks to be in good shape and a hard case to boot.

If you don't want it..... buy it for me and we'll figure out how to get it here.
 
Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

^^^ Hey Bill,,,,,they actually moved the "stiletto 412" over to the rectifier line when they cancelled the heads. Now they're called rectifier traditional.
The old "standard" rectifier cabs are now properly designated as "rectifier-OS" (oversized).

http://www.mesaboogie.com/cabinets-...inets--simulators/rectifier-series/index.html

You are correct.

When the original Stiletto cabs (now the Traditional) came out, I think they came stock with silver (?) piping instead of the black. Purely cosmetic to help differentiate the cabs. You can change vinyl and piping colors if you want, but it is an upcharge.

Good point; nice catch. Thank you!

Bill
 
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Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

Guys - thanks a lot for all the advice. This was a pretty good discussion period. Very informative.

Unfortunately, I have spent my Cab money on an Amp and a Guitar...I will revisit this topic in the future.
 
Re: I think I might want a new cab. Suggestions?

If you want something nice, I say get the matching Mesa 2x12. If you want nice but cheap, look for a Carvin 2x12. They are smaller, but they aren’t crappy in anyway.
 
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