I won't buy a Dimarzio...

[toneseekr]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

DiMarzio Pickups are the shiiiiit, DiMarzio Super Distortion,(in my opinion) is one of the best pickups to have ever been made on the face of this earth. It screams, and when you slide is has a siick electrical, beautiful sound, plus it really does fell the whole room with wall of sound. Mix it with a the Seymour Duncan JB being at 3/4 volume and the DiMarzio Super Distortion being at full volume and you get the best sound and feel to have ever been thought about. Thank Me later

 

[doodie]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Dimarizo has this wierd rule that restrict the seller from exporting their pickup. And that's probably the only reason keeping me away from buying their pickup. I never had problem buying guitar parts shipping from oversea except Dimarzio. All of the seller I asked told me the same answer, they are not allow to sell Dimarzio pup outside of US. So of course I went for SD.

 

[Zerberus]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

There are plenty of companies out there that offer legitimate reasons not to do business with them, DiMarzio is just one of them.

Fixed

IF you want a Super distortion, but it has to be a Duncan and not a Larry, then the Duncan Custom shop is your ticket to ride. It will however be more expensive than betraying yourself.

If someone dislikes DiMarzio that much, he should make sure every pickup in every one of his guitars is from another company and has a logo on it.

You mean like I do? :beerchug:

 

[Mosher Zone]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

So what if he trademarked double cream humbuckers, he was also the first to kick off the replacement guitar pickup so that balances everything out as far as I'm concerned.

Just buy a used one either that or never have a double cream Super distortion.

 

[darthphineas]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

I'm with the idea that if you don't like a company, don't give them your money.

For example, I'd always liked the PRS and finally pulled the trigger many years back. It was sweet. But I had some questions and called PRS cust serv. oops. The experience was foul enough to taint the joy of playing that guitar. I hardly touched it anymore and I finally sold it this year.

That being said, there are many good PRS guitars out there and I decided long ago that if I were to ever buy another one, it would not be a new one... as that'd just put the money into his pocket from mine. I'd buy a pre-owned one and put that money into an individual's pocket.

Might not be the 'purist' approach to not supporting a company, but it helps me sleep better at night.


Have you called SD tech support and asked them for their input on the closest model they make to a Super Distortion?

 

[Zerberus]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

So what if he trademarked double cream humbuckers, he was also the first to kick off the replacement guitar pickup so that balances everything out as far as I'm concerned.

Just buy a used one either that or never have a double cream Super distortion.

So, if Charvel were the ONLY company that could offer parts for strats, you´d be okay with that, too? After all, they started the aftermarket parts business by copying strats.

Or maybe if Ibanez were the ONLY company allowed to build a proper Les Paul, Strat, 335, Explorer, Flying V, SG, Firebird, Telecaster, Jazzmaster, Mustang, Melody Maker.... ? After all, they started the ripoff scene by copying Gibson and Fender.

Or if Mike Soldano were the ONLY person legally allowed to build a 1959? After all, he started the boutique amp sector after copying a Marshall.

Because in essence THAT´s what a trademark is, NOBODY else can build one without paying you license fees or getting sued for damages. And in this case, much similar to the theoretical ones stated, the company holding the trademark did zero.nothing to earn it and is damaging everybody else by holding to it.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

This whole thing is silly, buy used and you're not giving Larry any money, if it makes you feel better.


A Custom with an oversized ceramic is not unlike a SuperD, maybe crossed with a Dirty Fingers. I like it better than the SuperD, and I loves me a SuperD. Just sayin'.

 

[crguti]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Is thread is stupid ::headache:

 

[Barron1]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Is thread is stupid ::headache:

 

[Franknfilms]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Here you go http://www.dragonfireguitars.com/product_info.php?cPath=124_129&products_id=384

 

[TheProphet]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Is thread is stupid ::headache:

Not only that but Evan has repeatedly requested that members here don't trash their competitors as they are not here to defend themselves.

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

I agree with the guys saying that you should just buy a used one. Buying that used one from the guy on here so that he can buy a Duncan is a brilliant idea.

You get what you want and Seymour gets a sale.

 

[Gypsyblue]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

I prefer the way Duncan pickups sound - more pickups to choose from with the vintage tones that make my guitar sound like an old familiar friend.

When I think of Dimarzio I think of buzzy modern rock tones and I don't want to sound like that.

Gibson Guitars is a bigger problem for me because I like Gibson guitars and play one. But now that I know who Gibson donates money to I will resist ever buying a new Gibson guitar again.

 

[Robert S.]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Zerb, good to see you posting again!

The trademark is a silly thing for sure but it only applies to "uncovered" pickups. You can order a SD pickup with a loosely attached cover in double cream as a floor shop custom with no worries.

you can even get gold posts and studs, very sexy...

 

[Ayrton]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Zerb, good to see you posting again!

The trademark is a silly thing for sure but it only applies to "uncovered" pickups. You can order a SD pickup with a loosely attached cover in double cream as a floor shop custom with no worries.

you can even get gold posts and studs, very sexy...

Sadly this is no longer the case unless something has changed in the last month.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

I prefer DMZ neck and Duncan bridge pickups.

 

[Barron1]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

Here you go http://www.dragonfireguitars.com/product_info.php?cPath=124_129&products_id=384

How do those sound though? I can't find any sound clips of it

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

So, if Charvel were the ONLY company that could offer parts for strats, you´d be okay with that, too? After all, they started the aftermarket parts business by copying strats.

Or maybe if Ibanez were the ONLY company allowed to build a proper Les Paul, Strat, 335, Explorer, Flying V, SG, Firebird, Telecaster, Jazzmaster, Mustang, Melody Maker.... ? After all, they started the ripoff scene by copying Gibson and Fender.

Or if Mike Soldano were the ONLY person legally allowed to build a 1959? After all, he started the boutique amp sector after copying a Marshall.

Because in essence THAT´s what a trademark is, NOBODY else can build one without paying you license fees or getting sued for damages. And in this case, much similar to the theoretical ones stated, the company holding the trademark did zero.nothing to earn it and is damaging everybody else by holding to it.

Sorry but your examples are greatly over exagerrated. A better example would be if Soldano trademarked snakeskin tolex on his amps. Many many things are trademarked in the same manner. The red and white stripe design on a coke can is trademarked. Does that stop anyone else from making soda? No not in the least it just means they cant use that same design on their can. Same thing here. It doesnt stop anyone from making replacement pickups. The damage is only the loss of being able to make your pickups in that color combination and im sorry but your deluded if you think that double creams are a large section of the replacement pickup market. I'm willing to bet a dozen black ones are sold for 1 of all other colors combined.

There are reasons why things are trademarked. Not saying you have to agree with them but by and large the courts and govt do. If you created something and you were knowing for doing it wouldnt you try to protect it? I'm not going to debate the whole ethics or morality thing but thats how the system is currently set up.



Whether we like it or not they have the trademark. Trademarks arent something that have to be "earned" In some places even if you use your trademark but haven not registered it you wont receive any of the rights having a trade mark affords. All that had to be done to recieve the trademark was file for it. They review it they even give a 30 day period where people can contest it.

The best that people can do is exactly like you said support businesses whose practices you agree with.

Making hugely incorrect analogies on the internet does nothing to solve the issue it only muddies the waters.

 

[Zerberus]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

^^ I disagree, by mere extension of the logic of the quoted post in combination with the facts of the actual matter at hand, the Charvel and Soldano examples make PERFECT sense, the Ibanez example is stretching it a bit, but what if they had trademarked one of the designs out from under Gibson /Fenders noses? Would everybody think that was so cool?

There is however ONE major difference between the Charvel and Soldano examples and the matter at hand: They actually did something novel instead of just thinking "oh this has been around for ages, we´ll just copy it and file for a trademark, if we´re lucky nobody will notice and it will pass".

I mean, for christ´s sake, Gibson INVENTED the P.A.F pickup, and is legally FORBIDDEN to use the terminology. SO even if the people that invented the whole ****ing product were still building it to exactly the same standards today, they would NOT be legally allowed to call their product what it is?

That´s almost 100% analogous to Coke having to call it´s product Coka-Cora, Pepsi´s being Pupsie, Seymour Duncan "JayBee" and "Special" pickups, Gibson Last Pools ans Esgees, Plum Rod Smooth "Seeyou Twenty Four"s, Mesa / Boogie Scratch I -V amplifiers.... Your name and design have been stolen from oyu, and you can either pay to keep making them or you can change your design and nomenclature...

If people still don´t understand what´s so ****ed up about this, then I can´t help them. Having a design stolen from them might, so part of me kind of hopes that those saying it´s all good are themselves engineers or inventors.

BTW: Kent Armstrong /WD Music Products is the exact same thing in blue with their trademark of the lipstick tube. Same lawyer, too.

Zerb, good to see you posting again!

The trademark is a silly thing for sure but it only applies to "uncovered" pickups. You can order a SD pickup with a loosely attached cover in double cream as a floor shop custom with no worries.

you can even get gold posts and studs, very sexy...

Until about 2 years ago (before my hiatus from the forum) this was the case.

This practice has since been ixnayed

 

[guitarded]

Re: I won't buy a Dimarzio...

I just found out the whole story of how Dimarzio trademarked double cream humbuckers so no one else can do it. I understand they did it so people would not buy the competitors pickups, but I still think it's lame. It's for this reason, on principal I will not buy their pickups because that's a greedy punk move they did.

But I still really like the sound of the Dimarzio Super Distortion from the clips I heard. What's a Seymour Duncan that sounds like the Dimarzio Super Distortion, because I will buy THAT pickup.

And please don't say the Custom, because I don't think they sound alike.

I have two Les Pauls with Super Distortion Bridge and Duncan 59 Neck. The two really work well together. I play Classic Rock and Old School Metal.