Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

i know how to read them now, smart ace

and i haven't offered to do mods for anyone. I knew all those reviews went to your head. I respect you man, but that was just a flat out arrogant statement

Stick a fork in me,cause I'm done!

John

 

[Kent S.]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

Well, since there are posts deleted I don't get to see the whole thing here, but concerning the sD-1, yes they are basiclly the same circuit as the tube screamer ... some of the differences that come to mind are a third transitor in the flip-flop array in the TS, a few different value caps throughout, different input and output impedances, of course the whole symmetrical vs. asymmetrical clipping thing, the physical switch system, if memory serves correctly the AC adaptor system is a bit different,different transitors throughout ... of course this doesn't count all the strange variations that always seem to happen on production line stuff anyway (like one month they stuck in another chip). Conceptually the SD-1 and TS the same in their design, but there are still variations. Personally, money wise, I would go with a SD-1 over the tS any day, as it's made a bit better in certain ways (structually, especially in regard to the original type switch that the TS had);
one further note, the 808's had a different output impedance than the 9's (not sure of the others) ... the 808's were a bit better at driving the input of a tube amp for this reason. I can see why someone would say they are basically the same, and they are ... but there are still differences that make them to different animals ...did that make any sense? Oh, well ... a TS can be a SD-1, and a SD-1 can be a TS if desired. Hey John, out of curiosity have you messed with the OD-3 overdrive at all? Any opinions on it stock?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

Stick a fork in me,cause I'm done!

John

Don't sweat it buddy...we all get this kind of crap from somebody during our time. John, we all know what you can do and we ll know what you know! When Leo Fender modded Western Electric phone amps into guitar amps people said he was ripping people off...some years late Jim Marshall took the Fender amps...modded them and people also said that he was ripping people off...Randall Smith also modded Fender amps and that became boogie...see anything? most of us (the ones that matter) love you mods, and what I'm trying to say is don't let one bone head with an ego get you down! Keep up the good work, and don't sweat the small stuff!!!

 

[Metalman_666]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

I just played a coffee house last night with a bunch of other bands and one guy was using a TS-7 Tone Lok to boost his peavey bandit 112 combo, SS I believe... it really didn't sound that bad... maybe a little on the trebly side, but I'm sure that coulda been changed... by itself it didn't sound half bad either!

 

[bloodswords]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

it sounds trebly when the 'HOT' switch is activated, at least to me...

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

Well, since there are posts deleted I don't get to see the whole thing here, but concerning the sD-1, yes they are basiclly the same circuit as the tube screamer ... some of the differences that come to mind are a third transitor in the flip-flop array in the TS, a few different value caps throughout, different input and output impedances, of course the whole symmetrical vs. asymmetrical clipping thing, the physical switch system, if memory serves correctly the AC adaptor system is a bit different,different transitors throughout ... of course this doesn't count all the strange variations that always seem to happen on production line stuff anyway (like one month they stuck in another chip). Conceptually the SD-1 and TS the same in their design, but there are still variations. Personally, money wise, I would go with a SD-1 over the tS any day, as it's made a bit better in certain ways (structually, especially in regard to the original type switch that the TS had);
one further note, the 808's had a different output impedance than the 9's (not sure of the others) ... the 808's were a bit better at driving the input of a tube amp for this reason. I can see why someone would say they are basically the same, and they are ... but there are still differences that make them to different animals ...did that make any sense? Oh, well ... a TS can be a SD-1, and a SD-1 can be a TS if desired. Hey John, out of curiosity have you messed with the OD-3 overdrive at all? Any opinions on it stock?

Hello buddy....I'm not at all familiar with the OD-3?

John

 

[Kent S.]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

Don't sweat it buddy...we all get this kind of crap from somebody during our time. John, we all know what you can do and we ll know what you know! When Leo Fender modded Western Electric phone amps into guitar amps people said he was ripping people off...some years late Jim Marshall took the Fender amps...modded them and people also said that he was ripping people off...Randall Smith also modded Fender amps and that became boogie...see anything? most of us (the ones that matter) love you mods, and what I'm trying to say is don't let one bone head with an ego get you down! Keep up the good work, and don't sweat the small stuff!!!

A good lesson in this is that people tend to forget that a mod or a new approach is built on the past works of others, and it's the mod or new amp, circuit, approach, application, etc. taken as a whole along with it's result
that makes it unique and original. The result of original work is that it's always more than the sum of it's parts. :cool3:

 

[Kent S.]

Re: Ibanez Tone-Lok TubeScreamer

Hello buddy....I'm not at all familiar with the OD-3?

John

The OD-3 has the same contols as the SD-1, but it incorpoartes a dual gain stage for a lot more gain and clipping. According to BOSS it's still supposed to have the overdrive tonality rather than a distortion pedal vibe. I was just curious.