If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
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MikeS
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Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
This guy's got the right idea. Keep track of the instrument's yearly appreciation, and if/when it begins to appreciate at a rate equal or less than the rate of inflation, unload it. As a musical instrument it isn't worth that kind of money, so I'd treat it as an investment, just as though it were a stock or bond. Unload it when the market is in your favor.
This guy's got the right idea. Keep track of the instrument's yearly appreciation, and if/when it begins to appreciate at a rate equal or less than the rate of inflation, unload it. As a musical instrument it isn't worth that kind of money, so I'd treat it as an investment, just as though it were a stock or bond. Unload it when the market is in your favor.
Bludave
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Why would you want to put it in a vault? I would be playing it every day! After all it would ruin your desire to play anything else. The thing you have to remember is if you paid $400,000 for a guitar, money is obviously not a concern for you. So whats the point of owning one of the greatest electric guitar. to put in in a vault???? If your not going to play it..... sell it!
Why would you want to put it in a vault? I would be playing it every day! After all it would ruin your desire to play anything else. The thing you have to remember is if you paid $400,000 for a guitar, money is obviously not a concern for you. So whats the point of owning one of the greatest electric guitar. to put in in a vault???? If your not going to play it..... sell it!
mrturtle_91
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Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
I'd sell it and get something I would use.
I'd sell it and get something I would use.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
I'd sell it, pay off all my debts, and pay cash for a nice house and a nice car.
Anything left would go in the bank.
I'd sell it, pay off all my debts, and pay cash for a nice house and a nice car.
Anything left would go in the bank.
Luke Duke
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Loserchief
SwingingIdiot
Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
sell it ASAP, get about 10-20 custom shop guitars,a car and save the rest.
sell it ASAP, get about 10-20 custom shop guitars,a car and save the rest.
Nothinglies
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To the guy who said sell it to buy a custom guitar. Why? I would play that sucker on stage just to show the world and everyone in it that my guitar is better than theirs. You might as well keep it just to have it.lol. Im not knockin on anyone.lol.This is great.
To the guy who said sell it to buy a custom guitar. Why? I would play that sucker on stage just to show the world and everyone in it that my guitar is better than theirs. You might as well keep it just to have it.lol. Im not knockin on anyone.lol.This is great.
ErikH
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The dad and husband in me would sell it, pay off any debts, pay off the house, get a new truck and put the rest away for my daughter's education.
The musician in me would sell it and buy a couple new amps, a couple more Strats, EBMM Axis or two, then build a studio with the rest.
The devil in me would invite the snobby LPF members over to gawk at it then watch the jaws drop and tears flow as I pull a Jimi Hendrix at the Monterey Pop Festival on it....ROFLMAO!!
The dad and husband in me would sell it, pay off any debts, pay off the house, get a new truck and put the rest away for my daughter's education.
The musician in me would sell it and buy a couple new amps, a couple more Strats, EBMM Axis or two, then build a studio with the rest.
The devil in me would invite the snobby LPF members over to gawk at it then watch the jaws drop and tears flow as I pull a Jimi Hendrix at the Monterey Pop Festival on it....ROFLMAO!!
Loserchief
SwingingIdiot
Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
well, old and valuable doesn't instanly mean better. The only guitars in thath price range are vintage gibson and i hate everything gibson with a passion(feel, tone,looks,shapes).
For like 5000$ i can get a superb Jackson Custom that's tailored to what i want, that's still better than what most people own, but the most important thing is that it's more me.
300000$ would give me the option to buy 60 guitars like that and this would be way cooler than having one old block of wood that i don't like.
well, old and valuable doesn't instanly mean better. The only guitars in thath price range are vintage gibson and i hate everything gibson with a passion(feel, tone,looks,shapes).
For like 5000$ i can get a superb Jackson Custom that's tailored to what i want, that's still better than what most people own, but the most important thing is that it's more me.
300000$ would give me the option to buy 60 guitars like that and this would be way cooler than having one old block of wood that i don't like.
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Again, I see lots of mentions about how it should be played because as one poster said, it would show the world that your guitar is better than theirs.
Or another poster said it would ruin the desire to play anything else.
I've never played a 59 Burst but I've played a bunch of really nice LP's in my time, and I'm just not getting what makes this 59 in question so much better than anything else out there.
Make no mistake, I understand why its worth what it is to a collector, but to just a good honest player who wants a great tone and great feel, I'm having a very hard time with some peoples comments
I think any if you take any $5000 custom shop guitar thats made with your specific style and tone in mind, its going to beat anything else hands down because it was made for YOU.
Lets take a guy who likes to play metal. Is this 59 Burst really going to be a better guitar choice for him than some custom LP setups with a metal player in mind ? I don't think so.
So in the mind of said metal guitarist, how could I say that if I owned said 59, "my guitar is better than yours" when it doesn't give me the tones that I'm looking for in my own playing ?
All you've got is "my guitar is more expensive than yours" and thats not really going to impress anyone I wouldnt think
Again, I see lots of mentions about how it should be played because as one poster said, it would show the world that your guitar is better than theirs.
Or another poster said it would ruin the desire to play anything else.
I've never played a 59 Burst but I've played a bunch of really nice LP's in my time, and I'm just not getting what makes this 59 in question so much better than anything else out there.
Make no mistake, I understand why its worth what it is to a collector, but to just a good honest player who wants a great tone and great feel, I'm having a very hard time with some peoples comments
I think any if you take any $5000 custom shop guitar thats made with your specific style and tone in mind, its going to beat anything else hands down because it was made for YOU.
Lets take a guy who likes to play metal. Is this 59 Burst really going to be a better guitar choice for him than some custom LP setups with a metal player in mind ? I don't think so.
So in the mind of said metal guitarist, how could I say that if I owned said 59, "my guitar is better than yours" when it doesn't give me the tones that I'm looking for in my own playing ?
All you've got is "my guitar is more expensive than yours" and thats not really going to impress anyone I wouldnt think
guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
Besides, someone might just come along with a $1000 guitar, and blow the guy with the '59 right outta the water.
Besides, someone might just come along with a $1000 guitar, and blow the guy with the '59 right outta the water.
Bludave
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The reason why your having a hard time grasping it is because as you said you have never played a 59 burst. I am not finding fault with any of your statements, for the most part I agree with a lot of them, but I have had the previledge of playing many bursts. I have also played several conversions. Cris Mirabella is one of my closest friends and his conversions are considered to be among the best. He also specializes in restoring all kinds of vintage guitars. Last week I was in his shop and he had a few 50's Fenders. Through him I have played quite a few amazing guitars. There is certainly nothing wrong with any new guitar or custom shop guitars, but when you compare them to a guitar that is 50 years old and has original PAF's in it..... there really is nothing to compare. 50 years of aging and those amazing warm articulate pickups can't be replicated. They are among the most articulate guitars I have ever played. Some play better than others, some sound better than others. I have even played a few that IMHO were dogs. Most will blow any new guitar out of the ballpark.
About 4 years ago we had a NY area SDUG meet at his shop. Everyone there had some really nice guitars, most equipped with their favorite Duncan pickups. Every guitar there sounded great. Cris brought out a 54 burst converted to 59 specs. That guitar won hands down. Again... nothing wrong with any new Les Paul or Custom shop guitar...... but they don't compare with the real deal. There is something that 50 years of age does to a guitar. Espicially when the guitar has been in the hands od a great player for many years. Great guitars deserve to be played. It makes them sound that much better.
The reason why your having a hard time grasping it is because as you said you have never played a 59 burst. I am not finding fault with any of your statements, for the most part I agree with a lot of them, but I have had the previledge of playing many bursts. I have also played several conversions. Cris Mirabella is one of my closest friends and his conversions are considered to be among the best. He also specializes in restoring all kinds of vintage guitars. Last week I was in his shop and he had a few 50's Fenders. Through him I have played quite a few amazing guitars. There is certainly nothing wrong with any new guitar or custom shop guitars, but when you compare them to a guitar that is 50 years old and has original PAF's in it..... there really is nothing to compare. 50 years of aging and those amazing warm articulate pickups can't be replicated. They are among the most articulate guitars I have ever played. Some play better than others, some sound better than others. I have even played a few that IMHO were dogs. Most will blow any new guitar out of the ballpark.
About 4 years ago we had a NY area SDUG meet at his shop. Everyone there had some really nice guitars, most equipped with their favorite Duncan pickups. Every guitar there sounded great. Cris brought out a 54 burst converted to 59 specs. That guitar won hands down. Again... nothing wrong with any new Les Paul or Custom shop guitar...... but they don't compare with the real deal. There is something that 50 years of age does to a guitar. Espicially when the guitar has been in the hands od a great player for many years. Great guitars deserve to be played. It makes them sound that much better.
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Pete Galati
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Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
A '59 Gibson Les Paul Standard is valuable enough that you need to be very careful with it. So if you're going to keep it, you have to protect it.
I'd call up someone like George Gruhn, and discuss keeping vintage instruments.
Pete
A '59 Gibson Les Paul Standard is valuable enough that you need to be very careful with it. So if you're going to keep it, you have to protect it.
I'd call up someone like George Gruhn, and discuss keeping vintage instruments.
Pete
lex666
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I'd sell it. The $300,000 is worth more to me than a guitar. With that money I could probably buy a much nicer custom shop les paul and be debt free.
I would like to think a guitar made recently from the custom shop would play and sound better than a guitar made almost 50 years ago.
I'd sell it. The $300,000 is worth more to me than a guitar. With that money I could probably buy a much nicer custom shop les paul and be debt free.
I would like to think a guitar made recently from the custom shop would play and sound better than a guitar made almost 50 years ago.
Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
Thanks for the post Bludave, intresting insights.
I do agree that age can improve the tone of the wood, night and day difference in acoustics as even some old cheap guitars such as Yamaha's can sound really nice after 20-30 years and actually sound better than top of the line current offerings.
With solid bodies though I've never really noticed much of a marked difference. I don't doubt it there on some level but aside from the differences in materials today verse yesteryear, I think it could be hard at least for most players.
Intresting regarding the PAF's as well. Again I guess its a matter of taste though because while one person may love those PAF's, theres bound to be another guy who loves an EMG-81.
I guess if the 59 Burst has all the qualities your after and your loaded, maybe, just maybe its worth keeping.
On the other hand if you were to replace the tuners, add straplocks, throw some EMG's in it, string it with .60 gauge strings and tune it to D, you've "wasted" about $290,000 of vintage "value" :banghead:
Yet at the end of the day, if that makes it play nicer for your needs, I guess at least to that person its a more valueable guitar in the way that really matters.
Can't put a pricetag on tone after all, and even if you could, we'd be talking way too many currencies :scratchch
Thanks for the post Bludave, intresting insights.
I do agree that age can improve the tone of the wood, night and day difference in acoustics as even some old cheap guitars such as Yamaha's can sound really nice after 20-30 years and actually sound better than top of the line current offerings.
With solid bodies though I've never really noticed much of a marked difference. I don't doubt it there on some level but aside from the differences in materials today verse yesteryear, I think it could be hard at least for most players.
Intresting regarding the PAF's as well. Again I guess its a matter of taste though because while one person may love those PAF's, theres bound to be another guy who loves an EMG-81.
I guess if the 59 Burst has all the qualities your after and your loaded, maybe, just maybe its worth keeping.
On the other hand if you were to replace the tuners, add straplocks, throw some EMG's in it, string it with .60 gauge strings and tune it to D, you've "wasted" about $290,000 of vintage "value" :banghead:
Yet at the end of the day, if that makes it play nicer for your needs, I guess at least to that person its a more valueable guitar in the way that really matters.
Can't put a pricetag on tone after all, and even if you could, we'd be talking way too many currencies :scratchch
Metalblaze
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Re: If You Owned A 300.000 Guitar?
The tones I'm after can be generated by one 2K guitar and one 2K amp. So, I'd sell it and with the money, apart from buying those two 2K units, I'd establish a recording/rehearsal studio for amateur and pro artists.
The tones I'm after can be generated by one 2K guitar and one 2K amp. So, I'd sell it and with the money, apart from buying those two 2K units, I'd establish a recording/rehearsal studio for amateur and pro artists.
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