In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

[ACG]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

Davey the humbuckers were wired with push pull pots for "series - paralell" performance not "series - single coil".... there sound be no hum or squeal... again I thinks it the special series of preamps I use.... I dont think these pups can handle all that gain in their present state... they may need some doctoring up... extra sheilding etc...

 

[kjrocks]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

6K on your guitar? I'm willing to bet you got way too many toys between your axe and your amp causing all your pain,not your pickups.

 

[ACG]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

Mike relax...

No rudness implied.... I'm just speaking with a New York Accent

I'm just saying that I had read through some of the liturature and it didnt seem impossible that they made a trembucker for the neck.. and yes I do realise that the strings get narrower at the neck.. I designed the guitar that I'm playing... I got your message....

But they do make trembuckers for the neck too... ya gotta admit... so its just a natural mistake on my part.. thanks for your info no rudeness implied... releax.. lets groove..

 

[chcjunior]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

I purchased a nickel plated Custom Custom for the bridge position on my Dean Hardtail that had to be returned to Seymour Duncan as it was extremely microphonic. They sent me a new one that was properly wax potted and have had no issues since.

 

[ACG]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

KJrocks no toys.. no pedals.... wireless midi patch switching.... and the point is that I never had squeal with the Bardens or the EMGs or the Dimarzios... only the Duncans...

Maybe I'm just unlucky..... I had a customshop Jackson with a JB and a Alinco im there and man did that thing squeal... but then again I had gold covers put on those pickups maybe thats why it squealed... later I had another axe stolen and dropped some seymours into a backup axe while waiting for the new Bardens to arrive .. again "squeal".... without covers this time... like I said maybe I'm just unlucky... I'm not trying to discredit Seymour he makes great pickups... and is a nice guy.. but my experience and I swear to God has been that every pickup I got that said seymour duncan on it squealed in high gain. So it must just be my setup... I guess

 

[TattooedCarrot]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

4. I have been told on this thread that "there are no trembuckers made for the neck position". Well As for trembuckers being made "only" for the bridge position please read the following which I just copied from the products list from this site that proves you are dead wrong. They do make trembuckers calibrated for neck position too.

"Original Parallel Axis Trembucker™
see | hear | specs | dimensions
PA-TB1 -- This humbucker is specially calibrated for either the neck or bridge position. Its spacing is also adjusted to allow for precise string alignment. Its tone is sweet and bluesy. The more gain you add, the more it sings. Available in black only.
Four conductor cable"....

I can see how this would be confusing to you. The Original Parallel Axis Trembucker™ is an actual model name; and it is the original. But it differs from the others as the term "Trembucker" as applied to those other models is used to describe the spacing of another Duncan model. Like a TB-5 is the trem version of a SH-5. So while the Original Parallel Axis Trembucker™ does come in a calibrated neck model, that neck model is a Trembucker pickup in name only, and is not actually a Trembucker spaced pickup? Does that make sense?

Anyway, I believe I'm dead-right.

 

[Sniper-V]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

ACG,

I suggest to you, to find a new store and a new tech to deal with your musical instument needs. Hard to believe that you have been using Duncans incorrectly for 15 years. If there is one thing I can't stand, its incompetant people. Especially the ones running music retail stores.

Quote:
TattooedCarrot
"I can see how this would be confusing to you."

Everything is going to be confusing to you at this point, your own words prove it, and with all that said, who knows what other complications you might have with your rig...

I work for a local music retail store and I personally recommend the Seymour Duncan's Matched Sets to you. If you act now I will have 50% off installation of the pickups by a "Authorized Seymour Duncan Technician" and "Certified Luthier"... oh yeah, satisfaction is guaranteed, or your money back....Thank you for shopping with us.

No rudness implied but I'm also dead-right.

Sniper-V

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

The guy in the store sold me the custom trembucker as a "neck" pickup... he said it was a "neck" model..... dont they make custom trembuckers in a neck model?


if not then its the stores fault here the guy was just misinformed...

Befor I bought any pickups I checked out this forum extensively and everyone said that a screamen demon and a custon neck was a good matchup.... so I did the research but maybe got misguided by the store rat trying to sell a pup...

okey for that point..BUT LET ME KNOW Why do they squeal? Why did every set of duncans I ever owned squeal at high gain..?

I find it hard to believe anyone on this forum recomended that setup. Could you provide a link to that? They need to be banned

I've played about every model of Duncan there is and I have never had issues with microphonics. I have no advice for you on this point.

As for the amount of gain you are using I would all but promise you that you could cut it in half and there would be little if any audible difference. Once you reach saturation point more gain doesn't do anything.

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

To answer the questions...

1. The guitar is a custom designed hand made beauty.... it worked great with the Bardens now that they are gone I am trying to find a replacment pickup that will offer all the playability of those bardens.... the bardens featured coil tapped double wound humbers that went into single coil mode (and sound remarkably like a sweet single coil) but still were true humbuckers without 60 cycle humm... The Axe is Brazilian Mohogany with a 5A quilted top... a 7 piece through neck of flamed maple , bubinga, and mohogany, its a sweet litte axe.... lots of features... Mike Sherman from Ken Smith basses worked on it when he was at the Washburn custom shop, then Brian Moore worked on it and reshaped the body and redid the paint job, then the great Victor Pedreski rebuilt the fret board with a series radius, Martin Simms put in the leds on the neck, the axe cost me about 6k without the pickups....

Brian Moore reworked it? I have been dealing with tem and have owned many of their gutars....they have a custom shop for building their guitars. BUt they dont rework other companies guitars in that way according to Patrick Cummings (the head guy at BMC) Maybe you can give a little more on how you managed to get them to do this for you...

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

This post is starting to smell funny..........

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

ANd really look at some of Duncans Endorsers....Gino from Filter uses absolutely insane gain levels and he can keep things in control.

Not a criticism of the originator of this post but you really dont need as much gain as you are describing.

 

[ranalli]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

I've never had a Duncan, Dimarzio or EMG sqeel if it was properly installed in a quality guitar that was properly shielded as well.

 

[kjrocks]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

"I think this has to do with the fact that in my style I use more distortion and compression than probably anyone else on the planet. I cascade many different tube overdrives and preamps.."

Sorry,I just assumed and I shouldnt have.....
You know what happens when you assume.......

 

[frankencat]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

FWIW, I had a very microphonic Duncan Distortion. It was like that out of the box. It is the only one I have had in 20+ years of using Duncans but yes, it is possible. With regard to the "smell" of the post, I smell it too.

 

[Boleslaw Gers 666]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

Well you're entitled to your opinion and to use whatever you want. But basically whenever you run a lot of distortion/OD with compression you're going to get a ****load of feedback when you aren't playing, it's just how it is. Isn't the pickups fault. But whatever works for you works.

 

[Davey]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

4. I have been told on this thread that "there are no trembuckers made for the neck position". Well As for trembuckers being made "only" for the bridge position please read the following which I just copied from the products list from this site that proves you are dead wrong. They do make trembuckers calibrated for neck position too.

"Original Parallel Axis Trembucker?
see | hear | specs | dimensions
PA-TB1 -- This humbucker is specially calibrated for either the neck or bridge position. Its spacing is also adjusted to allow for precise string alignment. Its tone is sweet and bluesy. The more gain you add, the more it sings. Available in black only.
Four conductor cable"....

please reread one of my posts.

 

[ACG]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

TatooedCarrot thanks for the detailed explanation yes you are “dead right” and I think that you could see how a person that was not familiar with the Seymour Duncan line could be confused by that contracdiction of terminolgy used in the producs explanations.. Thanks for taking the time t write it all out.

* Sniper V..... thanks for your suggestions but I think you may have jumped the gun with your answers without reading what I actually wrote in my post... You are the one that may be confused.. you say that “you cant belive that some one that has been using Duncans incorrectly for 15 years” I havent been using Duncans at all... I wrote that I tried out 3 sets during that time span in various guitars.... every set I ever bought didnt work out for me.. thats all... I was just being honest... you misinterpeted what I said because you didnt read the post... your just getting emotional
As for finding a new store and tech as I said I am overseas at the moment I travel around alot.... this is what is available here.. the store didnt mean no harm I guess the kid at the counter ment well he just made a mistake the wiring tech here dosnt speak english and just wired in the pickups acording to the diagram... so its a simple mixup that could have happened to anyone not familiar with the Duncan line which I am not. That why I am on this forum trying to learn the intricate details about this brand of pickups.

Then you said “E Everything is going to be confusing to you at this point, your own words prove it, and with all that said, who knows what other complications you might have with your rig.” once again you are presuming without reading what I wrote.... I already stated that I never had any problems with my sound, or with pickups squealing up till now. As a matter of fact my tone is unique and many folks kinda like it... So I have no problems with my rig or my sound “its just these pickuıps”... As with every rig it is tuned to the guitar and the pickups I used before.. maybe some retuning is in order to run these Duncan pups at ful potential. Sniper-V thanks for the offer to shop in your store and take advantage of your 50 % discount I would have loved to take you up on that but like I said I was pressed for time and I am on the other side of the planet... “You didnt read that either did you?”
Thank you for exclaiming that you are “dead right” about the statments that you made, if thats important to you “so be it” but judging from my posts on this thread I can see that in content your statments really dont have anything to do with the data I presented. Your just presuming things and getting emotional.

To the architect... I lurked on these forums trying to pick up data and learn from everyones experience before buying any Duncans... That pickup combination was recomended “I will try to find the example and post it for you but first I want to answer all the questions here...” As for having too much distorion I want to be honest here without giving away any trade secrets in the process yes you can have too much “bad” distorion but you can never have too much good distortion because “with every new platue of gain you can usher in a new set of harmonics if you have the seasoned hands skills and overall feel control in your playing”... thats why many folks use amp brakes to run big power tube amps into and reduce the signal to “line” and then run that signal into other preamps... like Alan Halsworth and other touch sesitive players with hot hands.... so its not about just cranking amps up loud and breaking down walls its about moving up to the next paltue of color shaping by adding more controlable mass to the notes your shaping with your hands....

end of part one please see next post

 

[ACG]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

Part 2..

Archer of fish.... Pat Cummings and Suzy are very old friends of mine, I was very encourging to Pat when they first started out, I talked him into making the performance CD’s he released to show off the guitars tones and I also taked him into making an all wood version of the MC1 at a lower price which was the now famous C90 series that took them into the big leauges in sales. So because I shared the same love of guitar design Pat and I would talk for hours “literally” about designs .... Because of this being the charming sweet guy that Pat is he helped me to finish rebuilding my custom axe.. They are all wonderful people God bless em all... Pats the guy who introduced me to Seymour Duncan.

The Architect.. to the remarks made that “this thread is starting to smell funny” well I am very sad to hear that.. During this entire thread I have said nothing that deserved that remark and I just pointed out that the info given to me by some of the posters here was “dead wrong” which I have proven it was.. I did not say this with any malice or bad intent.. later I repesented an explantion that it was “just my New York accent” so I have kept a civil tone throughout this thread... if anything does smell funny here it the overall intolerance and preconception towards a guy who is having a problem with Seymours pickups... excuse my candor but all I wanted to do was to solve my problems with these pickups by seeking information on this forum. Is that a mistake?

Ranalli .. please read my post “I never said I had an EMG or Dimarzio that squealed”.. again you guys are presuming without reading the post.

“Anyway”......

Look I didnt come here to fight... I just wanted to know “what is wrong with the performance of these Seymours that I am trying to use” , some of you have given me some useful info I thank you for that... and some you have also reminded me why I dont ever post on these music forums, I thank you for that too....

Next step I will switch around my Duncans and copper tape them inside and take it from there.. the pair cost me 3 bills over here, for that kinda money I’m gonna try to get some performance out of them “for my kind of playing”... maybe they need to be tweaked a bit... I have read on this forum that you guıys are doing all this hybrid stuff and swapping magnets etc.... sounds interesting.... there is good in everything that God does so I am sure that something good will come of this too.....

Thanks for the warm welcome and for all the guys who tried to gang up on me "You can all eat my drawers " Just kidding guys , this seems to be touchy bunch here..... relax lets groove,,,,[/

 

[TattooedCarrot]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

I'm now blind !!!!! Bright light, turn it off !!! :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: In all due respect and honesty I am dissapointed with these Duncan pickups

Wow, all these crazy texts are hard on my eyes! hahaha

The answer is simple....pull out a soldering iron and reverse the two pickups.
If that doesn't solve the problem, Email customer service at Duncan, they'll give you a return authorization number, and in a week or so, you'll have the pickups of your choice show up at your door.