Inactive Coil(s)

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frankfalbo said:
Keep it up and so help me I will turn this car around.
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thanaton said:
Which makes it all the more disappointing that your answer is lacking of any specifics.

This reminds of a phrase "It's not a bug; it's an undocumented feature!"
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Someday, if you ever design an actual product that thousands++ people use and that product helped to put food on your table and pay for the roof over your head, and is still in production, you'll understand.
 
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Whenever you split a humbucker, one thing that makes the one remaining coil different from a true single coil is the fact that the "unused" coil still interacts with the "used" coil, magnetically. You essentially create a transformer when you split a humbucker by grounding out the second coil. P-90's don't usually have a secondary leaching flux from the primary. So the P-90 in the P-Rails is less like a P-90 "by design"? That makes no sense. This just sounds like an attempt to justify a design oversight after the fact.
 
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When I searched, I found 14 pages of 326 threads discussing the P-Rails, their sound, how they work, how to orient them, what differences it makes, what different magnets do to them, etc., just filtered by when Frank (who designed them) participated in the thread, and not the general population at large. You are quite skilled with Google, try searching here. I think you can find the answers to your questions, provided you are willing to accept that often 'the' answer is not your preconceived idea of what the answer should be.
 
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Maybe P-Rails are not exactly the same as an authentic P-90 for the reasons stated above. That doesn't mean the P-Rails are bad pickups. Frankly, I don't think there is a need to say every little details was "by design". You can just admit that some things are not 100% the same, but that doesn't make it a bad pickup, either.
 
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This, from someone who just a short while ago was asserting to us in another thread that unless the difference is greater than 1dB, the human ear can't perceive it. You can't have it both ways. Can you show me a graph whereby grounding a neighboring coil produces a >1dB difference in sound, while offering zero benefit to the noise floor? Can your drive coil do that? Can your drive coil show the delta between an SP90-1 and a P-Rails coil, with and without the rails coil shorted?

Can you at least tell us that you've owned a set of P-Rails, you tried shorting the unused coil(s), and you preferred the sound and noise performance of the unused coil left open instead of shorted? Can you describe the difference in tone that you heard with your ears? Did it seem like >1dB?
 
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Apologies for opening a can of worms :-S

I make use of my tone controls, so won't dabble with spin-a-split, and will likely just ground the unused coil. Hopefully, we'll not all be sucked into an alternative dimension in the process :)
 
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frankfalbo said:
This, from someone who just a short while ago was asserting to us in another thread that unless the difference is greater than 1dB, the human ear can't perceive it. You can't have it both ways. Can you show me a graph whereby grounding a neighboring coil produces a >1dB difference in sound, while offering zero benefit to the noise floor? Can your drive coil do that? Can your drive coil show the delta between an SP90-1 and a P-Rails coil, with and without the rails coil shorted?

Can you at least tell us that you've owned a set of P-Rails, you tried shorting the unused coil(s), and you preferred the sound and noise performance of the unused coil left open instead of shorted? Can you describe the difference in tone that you heard with your ears? Did it seem like >1dB?
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You're the one who claims that gain makes <1dB variances become audible. You made my case for me.
 
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thanaton said:
You're the one who claims that gain makes <1dB variances become audible. You made my case for me.
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Heh...I'm pretty sure no one reading believes I've made your case, but congratulations on winning your personal internet today.

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New and confused.Is there some sort of relationship that is resulting in debate over something that has been resolved?
 
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