Initial Review of the DiMarzio Titan Bridge

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I recently installed a Dmz titan in the bridge of my ibanez rgt (hardtail, dual humbucker, 5 way, 5 pc maple walnut neck, mahog wings), replacing the sh-11 custom custom. It was absolutely horrible for anything tuned below d standard, including drop c even. Wasnt tight enough for chuggy stuff, but i didnt expect that from a medium-low output a2 pickup. Im honestly at a loss as to why it was ever installed in a guitar designed for metal (it also has a 59 bridge in the neck...people do weird ****). This was my first pickup install, and to all the guys who have never soldered before and are scared of installing a pickup on their own, just do it, it's the easiest thing ever.

The low end is tight, but dynamic as hell. Your picking needs to be very consistent, if its not, youll definitely hear it. Its very scooped out and i brought the bass up to 6 as opposed to having it at 4 to compensate and theres no mud, even with the artificial bass boost. The midrange very pronounced. I went from having my mids at 7 to having them at 4 is pretty spikey but that can be fixed with a height adjustment. The titan is ridiculously sensitive to height adjustments. Itll go from over the top tight and gainy (super djent) to a bit more relaxed and smooth, but still tight and controlled. I seriously spent about 10 total minutes ****ing with the pickup height. The highs are also very pronounced, but less so than the mids. No annoying spikes, not harsh, but very present and clear. All the strings have equal volume, the titan is incredibly clear with big chords under high gain as well as mid gain and cleans. It has the best cleans ive ever gotten out of a bridge pickup (about the same as the bkp juggernaut). Compared to other pickups it's somewhere between a dactivator and an illuminator (or between a nazgul and an omega). Hit me up with any questions and i'll reply asap, i know this review is a bit ****e
 
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I tweak my pickups about every time I play guitar. Your 10 minute comment cracked me up.

I have severe ocd though and wash my hands every few songs I play too..
 
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I tweak my pickups about every time I play guitar. Your 10 minute comment cracked me up.

I have severe ocd though and wash my hands every few songs I play too..

We would either get along famously or hate each other lol. Ive resisted the urge to raise my bridge pickup...still going strong
 
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I gained from your short description on the 59b in the neck that you didn't like it too much? That's actually a pretty common trick to make a neck pickup on a 24 fret Floyd Rose equipped guitar sound similar to how the neck would sound on a non 24 fret guitar. Do you plan on replacing the 59 as well?
 
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I gained from your short description on the 59b in the neck that you didn't like it too much? That's actually a pretty common trick to make a neck pickup on a 24 fret Floyd Rose equipped guitar sound similar to how the neck would sound on a non 24 fret guitar. Do you plan on replacing the 59 as well?

Its got some nice bite to it which is kinda nice and its pretty much the polar opposite of the titan bridge, so they blend pretty well on cleans. I just dont like the 59 in general, its to muddled. im wanting to get something clearer and more mid present, so its gonna go eventually. I can live with it for now, i dont totally hate it.
 
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Doesn't that pickup have a lot of high mids like the Activator?

not even just high mids, just a ton of all the mids lol. theres some really weird spikes hidden in the midrange that come out at the most inopportune moments possible. eventually i figured out how to get rid of that problem with height adjustments and eq
 
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The Titan is awesome man. You couldn't ask for a better high-output ceramic pickup with the perfect amount of tightness, generous midrange, and top end clarity. Dimarzio seems to have come up with the ideal recipe for high-output pickups that don't compress all crappy like the Duncan Distortion, Gibson 500, etc. They've come up with a number of ceramic, high output pickups lately including the Dominion, Transition, Imperium, Illuminator, and of course the Titan, which all sound great distorted and clean. I haven't tried the Imperium, but to me sounds the most promising in specs and by Dimarzio's description. One thing about Dimarzio is they are very good at describing their pickups. I think 95% of people who buy Dimarzios would more or less agree with their descriptions, EQs, and output ratings.

I had the Titan in an alder stratocaster. You would think that type of pickup would sound best in an Ibanez or mahogany Caparison, or whatever, but it seems to be rather friendly to a variety of guitar makes and materials. It's on the bright side, as many of their newer pickups are, but never piercing or harsh. Having a rather high output, I found it best sitting more to a medium-low distance from the strings. That helped smooth out the upper mids and high end, plus mine had the gold metal cover which might account for a bit of the top end sweetness too.

Unfortunately, they didn't have the matching cover for the neck pickup, so I ended up swapping the Titan for the Transition to explore that one. It's not a better pickup or anything, but more suited to my liking as I'm not as much a metal player as I am a metal listener. I'd say to anyone looking at the newer, high output Dimarzio models not to underestimate their versatility or overestimate their power. There was a chart I saw somewhere on the Internet where it compared output of Dimarzio and Seymour Duncan pickups, and generally even the high output Dimarzios had lower output than Duncans. That took me by surprise which is why I recently started looking into the Nazgul and Black Winter for a metal guitar I'm building.
 
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The Titan is awesome man. You couldn't ask for a better high-output ceramic pickup with the perfect amount of tightness, generous midrange, and top end clarity. Dimarzio seems to have come up with the ideal recipe for high-output pickups that don't compress all crappy like the Duncan Distortion, Gibson 500, etc. They've come up with a number of ceramic, high output pickups lately including the Dominion, Transition, Imperium, Illuminator, and of course the Titan, which all sound great distorted and clean. I haven't tried the Imperium, but to me sounds the most promising in specs and by Dimarzio's description. One thing about Dimarzio is they are very good at describing their pickups. I think 95% of people who buy Dimarzios would more or less agree with their descriptions, EQs, and output ratings.

I had the Titan in an alder stratocaster. You would think that type of pickup would sound best in an Ibanez or mahogany Caparison, or whatever, but it seems to be rather friendly to a variety of guitar makes and materials. It's on the bright side, as many of their newer pickups are, but never piercing or harsh. Having a rather high output, I found it best sitting more to a medium-low distance from the strings. That helped smooth out the upper mids and high end, plus mine had the gold metal cover which might account for a bit of the top end sweetness too.

Unfortunately, they didn't have the matching cover for the neck pickup, so I ended up swapping the Titan for the Transition to explore that one. It's not a better pickup or anything, but more suited to my liking as I'm not as much a metal player as I am a metal listener. I'd say to anyone looking at the newer, high output Dimarzio models not to underestimate their versatility or overestimate their power. There was a chart I saw somewhere on the Internet where it compared output of Dimarzio and Seymour Duncan pickups, and generally even the high output Dimarzios had lower output than Duncans. That took me by surprise which is why I recently started looking into the Nazgul and Black Winter for a metal guitar I'm building.

The nazgul is ****in awesome. Not as clear as illuminators or titans though. Kinda gives you the old ride the lightning tone really easily, but handles low tunings very well. Its like a more refined, yet hotter duncan distortion. Honestly, i wouldnt worry about duncans having very slightly higher output. If anything id go dmz because of it. Duncans designed to work for metal tend to be wound super hot, which sacrifices clarity. Thats why i love the titans and the illuminators
 
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The nazgul is ****in awesome. Not as clear as illuminators or titans though. Kinda gives you the old ride the lightning tone really easily, but handles low tunings very well. Its like a more refined, yet hotter duncan distortion. Honestly, i wouldnt worry about duncans having very slightly higher output. If anything id go dmz because of it. Duncans designed to work for metal tend to be wound super hot, which sacrifices clarity. Thats why i love the titans and the illuminators

Ah crud! That sucks because the Nazgul has the specs and description I'm looking for, but I have a Duncan Distortion in the bridge of one of my guitars and I hate it. The I bought the Mayhem set, so it comes with the Distortion neck version which is actually a really good neck pickup. I plan on keeping it, but I gotta replace the Duncan Distortion. I hate the crummy distortion it makes, and it compresses my amp in a crappy way. It sucks clean and all in-between tones. The only thing good about it is that it has a lot of mids and you can scoop them out and get a good scooped tone for metal riffing. It sucks for solos though. Because of the way it pushes my amp and compresses, it makes using pedals more difficult to dial in. I keep a boost or overdrive on all the time, so it just doesn't work for me at all. If the Nazgul is like that, then I need to look at another Duncan.
 
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Ah crud! That sucks because the Nazgul has the specs and description I'm looking for, but I have a Duncan Distortion in the bridge of one of my guitars and I hate it. The I bought the Mayhem set, so it comes with the Distortion neck version which is actually a really good neck pickup. I plan on keeping it, but I gotta replace the Duncan Distortion. I hate the crummy distortion it makes, and it compresses my amp in a crappy way. It sucks clean and all in-between tones. The only thing good about it is that it has a lot of mids and you can scoop them out and get a good scooped tone for metal riffing. It sucks for solos though. Because of the way it pushes my amp and compresses, it makes using pedals more difficult to dial in. I keep a boost or overdrive on all the time, so it just doesn't work for me at all. If the Nazgul is like that, then I need to look at another Duncan.

What amp r u running? What style of metal do u play? And why duncans specifically? Why not go dimarzio or bkp? Heres some pickups ive heard good things about as far as versatility and good metal tones:

Duncan: Parallel Axis Regular or Distortion, P-Rails (used by John Browne of Monuments), Custom (used by Rabea Massaad of Dorje and Toska before he switched to a bkp warpig)
DiMarzio: Titan, Illuminator, Crunch Lab, Tone Zone, X2N
BKP: Nailbomb, Warpig, Holy Diver, Juggernaut
 
Re: Initial Review of the DiMarzio Titan Bridge

Thanks for the detailed review. I've wondered about these for awhile and the more reviews and opinions the better.

Anyone know how the Titan would compare to the Crunchlab and/or the Illuminator (bridge models)?
 
Re: Initial Review of the DiMarzio Titan Bridge

Thanks for the detailed review. I've wondered about these for awhile and the more reviews and opinions the better.

Anyone know how the Titan would compare to the Crunchlab and/or the Illuminator (bridge models)?

Ive played both of them. The illuminator was fantastic. Its a bit less extreme in the eq than the titan and much better suited to standard tuning. The crunch lab was like a beefier, more aggressive tone zone, with a miniscule amount of clarity sacrificed. Between the two id definitely go illuminator. Between the illuminator and the titan its mostly personal preference and tuning.
 
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What amp r u running? What style of metal do u play? And why duncans specifically? Why not go dimarzio or bkp? Heres some pickups ive heard good things about as far as versatility and good metal tones:

Duncan: Parallel Axis Regular or Distortion, P-Rails (used by John Browne of Monuments), Custom (used by Rabea Massaad of Dorje and Toska before he switched to a bkp warpig)
DiMarzio: Titan, Illuminator, Crunch Lab, Tone Zone, X2N
BKP: Nailbomb, Warpig, Holy Diver, Juggernaut

I'm very familiar with all of those and a whole lot more. I have them all except the Juggernaut and X2N installed in some of my guitars. I was only inquiring about he Nazgul specifically because you made a comparison to the Duncan Distortion which I kind of hate.

Ive played both of them. The illuminator was fantastic. Its a bit less extreme in the eq than the titan and much better suited to standard tuning. The crunch lab was like a beefier, more aggressive tone zone, with a miniscule amount of clarity sacrificed. Between the two id definitely go illuminator. Between the illuminator and the titan its mostly personal preference and tuning.

The Crunch Lab is not a pickup I would associate with the Tone Zone. In any case, the D-Sonic is better than the Crunch Lab if you install it with the screw poles on the bridge side -- in my opinion -- unless you have a dark sounding guitar that needs more presence. The Crunch Lab is like the D-Sonic , but more of it overall. However, the compared to the D-Sonic, the mids of the Crunch Lab are pulled back just a little. The more level mids together with a slightly extended high end make the Crunch Lab sound like a heavier pickup with good definition. The D-Sonic to me is more versatile, but as stated, I only like it with the screw poles towards the bridge. I'm not sure if the Crunch Lab is less compressed than the D-Sonic somehow, even though it's hotter, or if the D-Sonic just has a little more crowded midrange.

When soloing, which is what I love more than playing anything else, I prefer the D-Sonic. The Crunch Lab has a little more low mids and a little more open in the high end. I don't know what pickups Petrucci used on which albums, but to me the D-Sonic would fit right into the realm of Suspended Animation, and the Crunch Lab would fit right in Black Clouds & Silver Linings.

Either way, both of them are awesome pickups. My opinion on Dave74's inquiry would be that the Illuminator and Crunch Lab are actually quite similar to my ears. I've installed both of them in the same guitar. You might think of the Illuminator as kind of a slightly more modern take on the Crunch Lab. The same difference in the midrange between the evolution of the D-Sonic to the Crunch Lab is the same difference in mids between the Crunch Lab to the Illuminator. What I mean by that, and keep in mind the difference is marginal but perceptible, is that the Illuminator is essentially slightly more present and a little pulled back in the low mids.

The Illuminator is kind of in the vein of the Transition. After touring all the new models, except the Imperium, I ever so slightly preferred the Transition and have stuck with it. If you want slightly more meat from your pickup, the Crunch Lab is it. If your amp is thick and you want more clarity and slightly better clean tone, the Illuminator is your pickup. Both are good in Alder and Basswood. Crunch Lab is probably better in Ash and Maple bodies. The Illuminator would be great with Koa and Korina. Mahogany is a bit tricky in my opinion. Sometimes Mahogany has a rich lower midrange, and sometimes it can emphasize some upper mids. If I had to take a gamble, I'd say the Illuminator for Mahogany.
 
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The Titan is awesome man. You couldn't ask for a better high-output ceramic pickup with the perfect amount of tightness, generous midrange, and top end clarity. Dimarzio seems to have come up with the ideal recipe for high-output pickups that don't compress all crappy like the Duncan Distortion, Gibson 500, etc. They've come up with a number of ceramic, high output pickups lately including the Dominion, Transition, Imperium, Illuminator, and of course the Titan, which all sound great distorted and clean. I haven't tried the Imperium, but to me sounds the most promising in specs and by Dimarzio's description. One thing about Dimarzio is they are very good at describing their pickups. I think 95% of people who buy Dimarzios would more or less agree with their descriptions, EQs, and output ratings..
I wouldn’t underestimate their old ceramic models either like a plain old super distortion. That one would do just as well with modern music as it did with the hesher grind of the 70’s. One of my prized possessions is an old non potted one from the 70’s I scored off eBay, and I would put it up against anything that’s out there. It’s one of the most perfectly eq’d pickups for heavy music, and has some serious chug with out a distinct ceramic quality to it. It also sounds nice and fat for clean playing. Point is they honestly have led the market with great ceramic models since their inception.


Unfortunately, they didn't have the matching cover for the neck pickup, so I ended up swapping the Titan for the Transition to explore that one. It's not a better pickup or anything, but more suited to my liking as I'm not as much a metal player as I am a metal listener. I'd say to anyone looking at the newer, high output Dimarzio models not to underestimate their versatility or overestimate their power. There was a chart I saw somewhere on the Internet where it compared output of Dimarzio and Seymour Duncan pickups, and generally even the high output Dimarzios had lower output than Duncans. That took me by surprise which is why I recently started looking into the Nazgul and Black Winter for a metal guitar I'm building.
Both company’s used different testing conditions and metrics for those charts, so they are not direct comparisons. I wouldn’t pay much attention to that. Where the resonance frequency falls and it’s q will also have a direct impact on the perceived output. A pickup could sound and feel a lot hotter than it is depending on this.
 
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I wouldn’t underestimate their old ceramic models either like a plain old super distortion. That one would do just as well with modern music as it did with the hesher grind of the 70’s. One of my prized possessions is an old non potted one from the 70’s I scored off eBay, and I would put it up against anything that’s out there. It’s one of the most perfectly eq’d pickups for heavy music, and has some serious chug with out a distinct ceramic quality to it. It also sounds nice and fat for clean playing. Point is they honestly have led the market with great ceramic models since their inception.

I never underestimated the Super Distortion. I don't know where you got that from. Maybe you meant to quote someone else perhaps? The Super Distortion is one of my favorite pickups. I have still have one in one of the first guitars I built years ago. I have 37 guitars - 26 of which I built. Anyway, the Super Distortion can never be replaced. Compared to the original Evolution, it's quite organic and has such and appealing EQ. All I pointed out is that Dimarzio has been perfecting their already great recipe in a more modern direction with some of their latest offerings. Don't even get me started on the 59 PAF. That's one Dimarzio I'm already lusting after.

Both company’s used different testing conditions and metrics for those charts, so they are not direct comparisons. I wouldn’t pay much attention to that. Where the resonance frequency falls and it’s q will also have a direct impact on the perceived output. A pickup could sound and feel a lot hotter than it is depending on this.

I didn't link to the chart, so how do you know which one I was referring to? It's just some chart on the Internet that I came across, as I said, so you must have assumed that I saw the chart and thought it was a legitimate, scientific measure or something. Some people are capable of discern, distinguish, and think for themselves by the way. If I believed everything I read on the Internet, I'd be one of those guys who thinks CNN is real news. LOL!

What you mentioned about output measure and perceived output is something I'm a little familiar with and agree with you on. The most recent example that comes to mind is Paul Gilbert describing the PAF Master. He said that even thought it's in the vintage output category, it has an easy, immediate attack. To me that's the most important aspect of a pickup aside from tone. The PAF36th to me is like that. It almost seems like a hot output. It makes everything so easy because it tracks the pick attack so readily. It almost feels like cheating. Compared to a vintage PAF that has all kinds of dynamics and doesn't push your amp, you have to work for it. If you don't have good control of your picking, then your technique will sound crappy. Maybe that's why a lot of people use compressors. I can't control my pick dynamics accurately like today's metal players, so I can appreciate pickups like the Super Distortion.
 
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I'm very familiar with all of those and a whole lot more. I have them all except the Juggernaut and X2N installed in some of my guitars. I was only inquiring about he Nazgul specifically because you made a comparison to the Duncan Distortion which I kind of hate.



The Crunch Lab is not a pickup I would associate with the Tone Zone. In any case, the D-Sonic is better than the Crunch Lab if you install it with the screw poles on the bridge side -- in my opinion -- unless you have a dark sounding guitar that needs more presence. The Crunch Lab is like the D-Sonic , but more of it overall. However, the compared to the D-Sonic, the mids of the Crunch Lab are pulled back just a little. The more level mids together with a slightly extended high end make the Crunch Lab sound like a heavier pickup with good definition. The D-Sonic to me is more versatile, but as stated, I only like it with the screw poles towards the bridge. I'm not sure if the Crunch Lab is less compressed than the D-Sonic somehow, even though it's hotter, or if the D-Sonic just has a little more crowded midrange.

When soloing, which is what I love more than playing anything else, I prefer the D-Sonic. The Crunch Lab has a little more low mids and a little more open in the high end. I don't know what pickups Petrucci used on which albums, but to me the D-Sonic would fit right into the realm of Suspended Animation, and the Crunch Lab would fit right in Black Clouds & Silver Linings.

Either way, both of them are awesome pickups. My opinion on Dave74's inquiry would be that the Illuminator and Crunch Lab are actually quite similar to my ears. I've installed both of them in the same guitar. You might think of the Illuminator as kind of a slightly more modern take on the Crunch Lab. The same difference in the midrange between the evolution of the D-Sonic to the Crunch Lab is the same difference in mids between the Crunch Lab to the Illuminator. What I mean by that, and keep in mind the difference is marginal but perceptible, is that the Illuminator is essentially slightly more present and a little pulled back in the low mids.

The Illuminator is kind of in the vein of the Transition. After touring all the new models, except the Imperium, I ever so slightly preferred the Transition and have stuck with it. If you want slightly more meat from your pickup, the Crunch Lab is it. If your amp is thick and you want more clarity and slightly better clean tone, the Illuminator is your pickup. Both are good in Alder and Basswood. Crunch Lab is probably better in Ash and Maple bodies. The Illuminator would be great with Koa and Korina. Mahogany is a bit tricky in my opinion. Sometimes Mahogany has a rich lower midrange, and sometimes it can emphasize some upper mids. If I had to take a gamble, I'd say the Illuminator for Mahogany.

I found that the illuminator was wayyyy clearer than the crunch lab and had more controlled bass. i didnt exactly think the crunch lab was muddy, just not nearly as clear as the illuminator.
 
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I found that the illuminator was wayyyy clearer than the crunch lab and had more controlled bass. i didnt exactly think the crunch lab was muddy, just not nearly as clear as the illuminator.

Well glad you like it either way. I'm a big fan of most pickup makers, and Dimarzio is one of my favorites, so I'm glad to hear you like it. This forum is cool because even though presumably most of us join the forum because we love Seymour Duncan pickups, a lot of us are just big gear nuts who like to discuss different gear. It's cool that there is always a Bareknuckle, Dimarzio, etc. thread in this forum every day.

I don't know what plans you have for future pickup purchases, but I urge you to try the Dimarzio Dominion. It blows me away every time I play it. In fact, I just got up for sitting around watching TV and noodling on my Dominion strat with my Fender Blues Jr for almost 2 hours. People automatically think Dominion = Mark Morton = Metal Riffing, but it's a fascinating pickup. Yes it's classified as a high output, ceramic pickup that's featured in the signature guitar of a top name metal player, but it's a lot cooler than that.

If you like to play a lot of solos and instrumentals, it's sensational. It's so good for soloing that you can dig in and play blues or rock or shred metal. I remember reading an article in a magazine several years ago in an interview with Mark Morton and I think he said something like that he was a "misplaced blues player." When you play it, you'll find out very quickly that it was designed to do a lot of lead work.

I'd say the Dominion is born out of a hard rock, old school design instead of coming from a foundation of modern metal -- sort of ironically -- but that matters none. First of all, it's a pretty organic and warm pickup. You won't get the kind of presence inherent in the Transition of Illuminator. However, it's equalization is so well designed that it's not going to sit behind a more present pickup in a mix or drown out under a bright Marshall or something. It has an impressive low end, but tight and not like you might think. Even though by description it has a similar low end to the Crunch Lab, the Crunch Lab low end seems to stand out a little more. Looking at your recording software, you can see that the Dominion is right on level with it in the low frequencies, it's just that the midrange is really neat. If you look at the fretboard from the bridge, down the strings, and toward the neck and imagine the EQ shape a pickup would have in an imaginary line above the strings, the Dominion probably takes more of a C shape.

The high end and low end aren't dominant in the Dominion, but they're plentiful. The midrange isn't too over-the-top either. Imagine a Breed that's a little more under control and not so spiky. Maybe you could say it's kind of between a Super Distortion and Breed. Maybe a little PAF Pro in there somewhere too because the harmonic content is glorious. The mids are pretty aggressive, and there's a little grind to the pickup overall, but in way that still gives a nod to the classics.

If you had a Transition and never saw the EQ or description, would would consider it in the medium to medium-high output at best. The Dominion, according to specs, is 30mv lower than the Transition (360 vs 390). In use, it's not a big difference, but you can tell the a little difference. Both pickups are ceramic and rated at high output, but don't really act like it. What both pickups allow you to do is have a pretty good range of pickup height from the strings. A lower from the strings tames the overall bite, makes you get a little more dynamic attack, and shaves a little output. If you put the Transition too close to the strings, it's a little strong and kind of bright. However, the Dominion lets you set it pretty close to the strings. What that does is make the high end a little more responsive and give it a little more touch sensitivity. However, both the Dominion and Transition have very quick pickup tracking.

I don't know if the word just hasn't gotten out or if Dimarzio has failed on the marketing of the Dominion, but it deserves a lot of attention. It's outstanding. If you like Dimarzios, you gotta give it a try.
 
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