Inner shielding of guitars.
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Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
There's also graphite-spray available... The one I know is from Warwick... sounds like the easiest way to me and I'm thinking about getting some...
There's also graphite-spray available... The one I know is from Warwick... sounds like the easiest way to me and I'm thinking about getting some...
Kevin@BlackRose
New member
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
You can get copper sheilding tape through Allparts.
You can get copper sheilding tape through Allparts.
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
Do you? Where do you get that?
Zerberus said:I use silver shielding paint
Do you? Where do you get that?
B
Breogan
Guest
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
You can use both. Once I've seen a shielded telecaster, they used the copper to shield the pickup and control cavities and the aluminiun foil to shield the pickguard. Main problem about the aluminium is that is very fragile...
Wheter you use copper or aluminium be sure to conect the shielding material to ground.
Good luck!!!
B2D said:
You can use both. Once I've seen a shielded telecaster, they used the copper to shield the pickup and control cavities and the aluminiun foil to shield the pickguard. Main problem about the aluminium is that is very fragile...
Wheter you use copper or aluminium be sure to conect the shielding material to ground.
Good luck!!!
Inge Malmstein
New member
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
Look for "Graphit 33" from "Kontakt Chemie" at stores like Conrads.
I mean it is the same as from Warwick, but a lot much cheaper.
Kommerzbassist said:
Look for "Graphit 33" from "Kontakt Chemie" at stores like Conrads.
I mean it is the same as from Warwick, but a lot much cheaper.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
Never used that stuff, btu supposedly it´s very similar.
THe paint I use is simply called "Leitlack", it´s silver laced, and usually used for repairing pc boards, window defrosters and stuff. You can get it at any decent electronics store
Inge Malmstein said:
Never used that stuff, btu supposedly it´s very similar.
THe paint I use is simply called "Leitlack", it´s silver laced, and usually used for repairing pc boards, window defrosters and stuff. You can get it at any decent electronics store
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
Well I'll be looking for some Leitlack... lol
Well I'll be looking for some Leitlack... lol
MikeRocker
What's Your Forum Nameologist?
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
Get this:http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Supplies:_Shielding/Conductive_Shielding_Paint.html
It is MUCH easier to work with than adhesive foil. You have to put on several coats, waiting for it to dry between each, but it works great and the results are much, much neater than the foil.
Get this:http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Supplies:_Shielding/Conductive_Shielding_Paint.html
It is MUCH easier to work with than adhesive foil. You have to put on several coats, waiting for it to dry between each, but it works great and the results are much, much neater than the foil.
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TheArchitect
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Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
I use the paint and the copper foil from Stew-Mac. The real advantage of the foil from Stew-Mac is that the adhesive is also conductive so you don't need to solder all of the pieces together to get your conductivity.
I did my strats like this. 1st, three heavy coats of the Stewmac shielding paint. This both gave me a nice shield on its own as well as provide a conductive base to apply the foil over. Complete over kill, probably but it looked and worked fantastic.
I use the paint and the copper foil from Stew-Mac. The real advantage of the foil from Stew-Mac is that the adhesive is also conductive so you don't need to solder all of the pieces together to get your conductivity.
I did my strats like this. 1st, three heavy coats of the Stewmac shielding paint. This both gave me a nice shield on its own as well as provide a conductive base to apply the foil over. Complete over kill, probably but it looked and worked fantastic.
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
I asked this question a while back, looking for an alternative to the Stew-Mac paint. $30.00 + s/h for a 1/2 pint seems a little overboard.
I haven't looked at the automotive stores yet, but Zerb told me about the silver shielding stuff. I'm gonna check out the auto parts & electronics stores locally before going to Stew-Mac.
Let me know what you guys find & I'll do the same.
MikeRocker said:
I asked this question a while back, looking for an alternative to the Stew-Mac paint. $30.00 + s/h for a 1/2 pint seems a little overboard.
I haven't looked at the automotive stores yet, but Zerb told me about the silver shielding stuff. I'm gonna check out the auto parts & electronics stores locally before going to Stew-Mac.
Let me know what you guys find & I'll do the same.
rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
I would go for the copper foil over any of the other methods. The paint is good for rear-routed guitars with one or two small to medium cavities, but I don't like using it for top-routed guitars. The paint is very messy and it gets all over everything. Even when it's dry, your whole hand will be black if you put it on an area of shielding paint. For top-routed guitars, I much prefer copper foil. Unlike paint, it's easily reversible. It's not as easy as painting and being done with it, but I think it provides slightly better results than the paint, unless you can find a paint with a very high metallic content. I know I tend to be in the minority on this one, but I would recommend the copper foil.
Ryan
I would go for the copper foil over any of the other methods. The paint is good for rear-routed guitars with one or two small to medium cavities, but I don't like using it for top-routed guitars. The paint is very messy and it gets all over everything. Even when it's dry, your whole hand will be black if you put it on an area of shielding paint. For top-routed guitars, I much prefer copper foil. Unlike paint, it's easily reversible. It's not as easy as painting and being done with it, but I think it provides slightly better results than the paint, unless you can find a paint with a very high metallic content. I know I tend to be in the minority on this one, but I would recommend the copper foil.
Ryan
rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
If you use copper foil, just solder a ground wire from the foil to your main ground point. If you use aluminum foil or paint, drill a small screw into the cavity, making sure that the head of the screw sits flush with the wood so that it's touching the shielding. Then solder a ground wire from the screw head to ground.
You didn't say what type of guitar it was, but if it's rear-routed, you don't need to drill for a screw if you use paint. The chasis of the pots/switches will come into contact with paint, so as long as you solder a ground wire from each casing to your main ground point, you'll be fine. That's how Hamer does it and that's how I did it when I shielded my Wolfgang.
Ryan
B2D said:
If you use copper foil, just solder a ground wire from the foil to your main ground point. If you use aluminum foil or paint, drill a small screw into the cavity, making sure that the head of the screw sits flush with the wood so that it's touching the shielding. Then solder a ground wire from the screw head to ground.
You didn't say what type of guitar it was, but if it's rear-routed, you don't need to drill for a screw if you use paint. The chasis of the pots/switches will come into contact with paint, so as long as you solder a ground wire from each casing to your main ground point, you'll be fine. That's how Hamer does it and that's how I did it when I shielded my Wolfgang.
Ryan
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
Mash off the area and go to town w/ a small brush. I actually find it easier to work with than foil (which i DO prefer for cover plates), and cleanup is assy: Lacquer thinner over the brush, let dry.
Different strokes for different folks
LOL, then you may want to try the silver Paint I use. It´s essentially clear lacquer with so much silver in it that it drys to a matte sheen, and the "black hands" problem is also a thing of the pastrspst14 said:
Mash off the area and go to town w/ a small brush. I actually find it easier to work with than foil (which i DO prefer for cover plates), and cleanup is assy: Lacquer thinner over the brush, let dry.
Different strokes for different folks
S
Skarekrough
Guest
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
I did a shielding project a few weeks ago.
For the body cavity I used what is essentially "Nickel In A Spray Can."
http://www.youdoitelectronics.com/id226_m.htm
It ran me a whole 25 bucks and after three coats in a few hours and 24 hours to cure There was PLENTY left over; you could probably get at elast a few bodies out of one can.
The hardest part was using newspaper and masking tape to cover the body. But that did allow me to really be able to customize the coverage area.
I checked it with a multimeter and was VERY impressed with the results. I didn't go too think with the coats and expected to probably use the whole can. Boy was I wrong!
For the back of the pickguard I used standard hobby-grade photo-mounting paint ina spray can and put aluminuim foil over it. I did the whole pickguard and used a knife to cut 1/2 inch in from the sides.
The results were pretty dramatic. I wouldn't take this guitar to an open jam or gig with it because it was so noisy. Certianly not the case now!
I did a shielding project a few weeks ago.
For the body cavity I used what is essentially "Nickel In A Spray Can."
http://www.youdoitelectronics.com/id226_m.htm
It ran me a whole 25 bucks and after three coats in a few hours and 24 hours to cure There was PLENTY left over; you could probably get at elast a few bodies out of one can.
The hardest part was using newspaper and masking tape to cover the body. But that did allow me to really be able to customize the coverage area.
I checked it with a multimeter and was VERY impressed with the results. I didn't go too think with the coats and expected to probably use the whole can. Boy was I wrong!
For the back of the pickguard I used standard hobby-grade photo-mounting paint ina spray can and put aluminuim foil over it. I did the whole pickguard and used a knife to cut 1/2 inch in from the sides.
The results were pretty dramatic. I wouldn't take this guitar to an open jam or gig with it because it was so noisy. Certianly not the case now!
rspst14
Tone Cat
Re: Inner shielding of guitars.
Where do you get the silver paint at? Hamer uses something similar, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere in the states. All I've found is the Stewmac stuff. Thanks.
Ryan
Zerberus said:LOL, then you may want to try the silver Paint I use. It´s essentially clear lacquer with so much silver in it that it drys to a matte sheen, and the "black hands" problem is also a thing of the past
Mash off the area and go to town w/ a small brush. I actually find it easier to work with than foil (which i DO prefer for cover plates), and cleanup is assy: Lacquer thinner over the brush, let dry.
Different strokes for different folks
Where do you get the silver paint at? Hamer uses something similar, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere in the states. All I've found is the Stewmac stuff. Thanks.
Ryan
