Is it just me...

Pierre

Pierre

Stratologist
Or a bare bone Strat/Tele are very unforgiving instruments?

I mean they usually go hand in hand with styles which are pretty unforgiving... cleaner tones, richer sounding amps... but as the guitars themselves, don't they also have a degree of really letting through your playing..? Which is something I don't get as much with les Pauls I feel.

Could be just me.
 
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Pierre said:
Or a bare bone Strat/Tele are very unforgiving instruments?

I mean they usually go hand in hand with styles which are pretty unforgiving... cleaner tones, richer sounding amps... but as the guitars themselves, don't they also have a degree of really letting through your playing..? Which is something I don't get as much with les Pauls I feel.

Could be just me.
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Fenders are too bright for me. I like mahogany guitars because they have thick tone! On the contrary strats are very expressive guitars but they don't feel right to play.
 
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The snappy attack will really show off weaknesses in your timing and picking technique.
 
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when i'm playing a stock strat or tele i normally have a hell of a lot less gain settings.... the less gain makes it harder to hide behind...
 
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I've noticed this too- that's why I play strats.

LP's feel too dead to me; it's like they sound the same no matter how you play them.
 
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SixStringSales said:
Disagree! It's easy to hit bum notes on a Strat and get away with playing flaws. That doesn't work on PRS!
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i totally disagree with this statement...entirely.

take a drum for example....when you hit the note...it plays...with a punch. it hits you, every time.

a strat is like that. you hit the note and its gonna play. on the other hand, if you don't hit the note right...because it is such a snappy attack and a clear tone...you can tell if something is not right
 
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Yeah ^^


That also lets your own "voice" shine trough - since the instrument is so sensitive to changes in pick attack and such.
 
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Pierre said:
Great minds think alike :D
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But seriously..different animal for sure. It will either correct your flaws, or break you...plain and simple. Now that I've gotten used to it, I'm really enjoying it. Keeps me honest. Now when I pick up my Dean, I can usually burn alot faster all over the board, but it sounds like just a bunch of notes without a whole lot of music, if you get my drift. On the other hand, the Dean has that raunch I love so much when chording. Six of one...1/2 dozen of the other.:dunno:
 
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JeffB said:
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But seriously..different animal for sure. It will either correct your flaws, or break you...plain and simple. Now that I've gotten used to it, I'm really enjoying it. Keeps me honest. Now when I pick up my Dean, I can usually burn alot faster all over the board, but it sounds like just a bunch of notes without a whole lot of music, if you get my drift. On the other hand, the Dean has that raunch I love so much when chording. Six of one...1/2 dozen of the other.:dunno:
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No more than any other. You probably just feel that way because strats feel that way to YOU. Somebody else might feel the same way about Gibsons. I prefer Gibsons because the notes ring truer. If you don't hit the note right or your hands arent syncd ur going to get a pronounced bunk note. On a strat I think this is less pronounced.
 
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SixStringSales said:
No more than any other. You probably just feel that way because strats feel that way to YOU. Somebody else might feel the same way about Gibsons. I prefer Gibsons because the notes ring truer. If you don't hit the note right or your hands arent syncd ur going to get a pronounced bunk note. On a strat I think this is less pronounced.
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Well of course, pretty much everything posted here on these boards is about opinion or what works for the individual. I think you are stating the clearly obvious.

My opinion is based on playing Gibson styles for a whole lotta years and a few strats and super strats. Perhaps I'd feel differently if I'd started on strats and gone the other way.

As for notes ringing true, ultimately that's all about technique and to a lessor extent quality of fretwork. I 've found little difference there once I get used to an individual instrument, regardless of 24.75, 25" or 25.5 " scale.
 
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I bought my first Strat in 1987. It took me about a year to where I felt I was getting to know the guitar. Strats and Teles you have to learn how to play them. Strats more so than Teles, and yes I do feel they are more unforgiving, but in the long run they make you a better player. There are a lot of variations of sound you can get out of a Fender just with the tone/volume knobs. Then the pickup selector. Its a pretty impressive design when you think its been around for over 50 years and it is still one of the best guitar designs ever made. Teles on the other hand are a simpler design, but that does not translate to inferior. If a Tele sound is what you need...... only a Tele will get you there. I find with some Teles (I own 4 )they tend to play and sound better with higher action. This can make it unforgiving and hard to play, but it is just such a great guitar.
 
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Good friend of mine and I took a trip to a NASCAR race about 600 miles away with him in command of all music. After a while I noticed he favored Fender Players or Fender style guitar players. I mentioned this to him, mind you he DOESN"T play guitar, and he said it sounds like they have to fight it to get it to sound good and he liked that. He liked a lil twang to the guitar along with the "chime and ring" too. He went on to say that several of the players we were listening to he had seen and it looked as he said, they had to fight it a lil. Joe Perry said one time in the late '70s, very Rawk Star like, " ...Nothing better sounding than a tourtured Strat..." :bowdown: :fing2:
 
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I agree with Bludave. Your hands and ears simply need to get accustomed to anything you're not already used to. Single coil pickups are capable of sounding bigger than humbuckers, but you have to approach them with the goal of fattening them.

One reason a lot of players like playing a LP and Strat is because it's like mastering opposite ends of the spectrum. It makes picking up ANY other guitar much easier. You barely need to make any adjustment, because you're already used to the two extremes.
 
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Gearjoneser said:
I agree with Bludave. Your hands and ears simply need to get accustomed to anything you're not already used to. Single coil pickups are capable of sounding bigger than humbuckers, but you have to approach them with the goal of fattening them.

One reason a lot of players like playing a LP and Strat is because it's like mastering opposite ends of the spectrum. It makes picking up ANY other guitar much easier. You barely need to make any adjustment, because you're already used to the two extremes.
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+1 very well said .....:burnout:
 
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To me it isn't about the flubbed notes standing out more...I believe that Strats and Teles make you work harder to make the guitar REALLY sing, whereas LPs are easier to get to that point on, and that when they DO sing that way, they do it better than an LP, IMO. :wall:

Les Pauls do butter better, but not that wailing banshee sound that full scale Fenders get.
 
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Believe the hype --- Strats are hard to get right, but when you do, it's more incredible than the same accomplishment on a Les Paul
 
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