Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
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Metalman_666
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
lol I know, that's part of the fun! :jester:
In any case, I just believe that Macs are more efficient and there aren't anywhere near as many viruses of all types for Macs as there are for PCs, because so many people think Macs aren't worth it :laugh2: and yet here we are, having established that PCs aren't necessarily superior. Always was a fun debate back in the day, and it still is.
DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
lol I know, that's part of the fun! :jester:
In any case, I just believe that Macs are more efficient and there aren't anywhere near as many viruses of all types for Macs as there are for PCs, because so many people think Macs aren't worth it :laugh2: and yet here we are, having established that PCs aren't necessarily superior. Always was a fun debate back in the day, and it still is.
Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
Yeah I agree on Macs. So much better. I used to be like everyone else, bashing Macintosh to no end -- that is until I tried one. One thing too that doesn't get much attention is the quality of the physical design. Everything is integrated, it's not like they just stuffed everything into a box. Have you taken a look at the new G5's? The low-speed fans are awesome. It looks like mechanical engineers were instrumental in the design. To me, just about every PC looks like computer/electrical engineers designed it.
Yeah I agree on Macs. So much better. I used to be like everyone else, bashing Macintosh to no end -- that is until I tried one. One thing too that doesn't get much attention is the quality of the physical design. Everything is integrated, it's not like they just stuffed everything into a box. Have you taken a look at the new G5's? The low-speed fans are awesome. It looks like mechanical engineers were instrumental in the design. To me, just about every PC looks like computer/electrical engineers designed it.
Pecan
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
I dont mean to be annoying, but most of what you guys just said is complete crap. I'll admit most of you guys know more then guitars then me, but...
For starters, Mac processors are actually a lot slower then Intel processors... let alone AMD processors. The fastest mac cpu isn't even close to the fastest intel cpu. And if you really want power, AMD are quite far ahead of both companies. AMD Athlons do run windows to by the way. As for virus.. if you really have a problem with them, use linux, neither windows nor mac os X are free of them, linux basicly is. Thats just a stupid situation though, first of all, if your going to be using a computer for a DAW then you shouldn't really use it for other stuff.. but if you have to, then just get a virus protector like mcaffe enterprise, its a lot better then norton. Norton is completly usless, i have mcafee and i cant get a virus if I try. As for audio recording programs, both operating systems have great choices, you don't need to worry about that, the only trouble you'd have with finding the right software is if you chose linux. And specs you'd want at least
-1GB of ram, i'd suggest 2GB
At least 2GHz equiv CPU
200GB hard drive
a decent audio interface card
and If you really wanna run a lot of plugins and effects while recording I'd suggest a new dual core CPU, forget running 64-bit system, no point, buying one is great value, but you won't be able to find the software for it if you wanna run it as 64-bit.
Oh and one more thing... Mac are so behind in the CPU market they've actually given up and are now going to start using other companies processors. So whoever said "Mac processors are faster..."
Sorry for the rant
I dont mean to be annoying, but most of what you guys just said is complete crap. I'll admit most of you guys know more then guitars then me, but...
For starters, Mac processors are actually a lot slower then Intel processors... let alone AMD processors. The fastest mac cpu isn't even close to the fastest intel cpu. And if you really want power, AMD are quite far ahead of both companies. AMD Athlons do run windows to by the way. As for virus.. if you really have a problem with them, use linux, neither windows nor mac os X are free of them, linux basicly is. Thats just a stupid situation though, first of all, if your going to be using a computer for a DAW then you shouldn't really use it for other stuff.. but if you have to, then just get a virus protector like mcaffe enterprise, its a lot better then norton. Norton is completly usless, i have mcafee and i cant get a virus if I try. As for audio recording programs, both operating systems have great choices, you don't need to worry about that, the only trouble you'd have with finding the right software is if you chose linux. And specs you'd want at least
-1GB of ram, i'd suggest 2GB
At least 2GHz equiv CPU
200GB hard drive
a decent audio interface card
and If you really wanna run a lot of plugins and effects while recording I'd suggest a new dual core CPU, forget running 64-bit system, no point, buying one is great value, but you won't be able to find the software for it if you wanna run it as 64-bit.
Oh and one more thing... Mac are so behind in the CPU market they've actually given up and are now going to start using other companies processors. So whoever said "Mac processors are faster..."
Sorry for the rant
Pecan
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
Oh I forgot to add, if you want something quick and easy and aren't really looking for anything more then a single input for your guitar, then maybe a cheap Mac might be for you. As for Macs for serious recording purposes, I Love them, but theres not enough choice hardware wise for me, with a PC you can get way better value componants as theres more choices, I suppose the PC is for someone who wants a decent value way where they are willing to put it goether them selves, buy everything seperate, and do some research on good value parts.
And they still aren't as fast... sorry.
Oh and felxible... defiantly not, mac is the worst in that catagory
The most efficient for clock speed... most certainly not, an AMD Athlon 64 which runs at 2GHz will run faster then a pentium prescot 3.2ghz.
Oh I forgot to add, if you want something quick and easy and aren't really looking for anything more then a single input for your guitar, then maybe a cheap Mac might be for you. As for Macs for serious recording purposes, I Love them, but theres not enough choice hardware wise for me, with a PC you can get way better value componants as theres more choices, I suppose the PC is for someone who wants a decent value way where they are willing to put it goether them selves, buy everything seperate, and do some research on good value parts.
And they still aren't as fast... sorry.
Oh and felxible... defiantly not, mac is the worst in that catagory
The most efficient for clock speed... most certainly not, an AMD Athlon 64 which runs at 2GHz will run faster then a pentium prescot 3.2ghz.
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Not to say much...but all that does not matter if the software is a POS thing
Well and in 2006 they will use Intels....lol how odd is that?
And for your info...Apple has never ever made their own processors.
Not to say much...but all that does not matter if the software is a POS thing
Well and in 2006 they will use Intels....lol how odd is that?
And for your info...Apple has never ever made their own processors.
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MattPete
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
Uh, yeah Pecan, CPU isn't everything. G5's are roughly equivalent to the current AMD and Intel offerings when it comes to streaming audio and video. Also, Apple doesn't make their own processors -- they're made by Motorola and IBM. Intel is so behind on the CPU market that Microsoft actually gave up on them and are now using IBM PowerPCs in their new Xbox2
As for components, I don't know what you're talking about. Almost all the PC stuff works with Macs (you may have to flash a PC video card).
Please tell me of a recording component that wouldn't work with a Mac.
[silly 16-year-old fanboy]
Uh, yeah Pecan, CPU isn't everything. G5's are roughly equivalent to the current AMD and Intel offerings when it comes to streaming audio and video. Also, Apple doesn't make their own processors -- they're made by Motorola and IBM. Intel is so behind on the CPU market that Microsoft actually gave up on them and are now using IBM PowerPCs in their new Xbox2
As for components, I don't know what you're talking about. Almost all the PC stuff works with Macs (you may have to flash a PC video card).
Please tell me of a recording component that wouldn't work with a Mac.
[silly 16-year-old fanboy]
Robert S.
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
I haven't found any hardware that won't run on my Mac, short of an old HP scanner and only because I didn't want to pay for a 2nd party driver. Thats ok by me, the scanner wasn't that great 5 years ago when it was new. As far as A/V gear goes, I just plug it in and it works, no disks to load, no drivers to locate online. ProTools was the only hardware that had software to load but thats not the same as driver issues.
Front end bus, clock speed and all the other tech talk just confuses me. Keeping a PC up and running frustrated me and owning a Mac freed me from both of those hassles. I don't even know the maority of Mac file extensions, but then again since I have never had to "fix" my Mac I don't need to know what they are.
A computer that ALWAYS works like it's supposed to, that I understand.
I also spend a bit of time in mid to top end recording studios and used to intern at a local television station. Macs in the production suites, PCs for internal communication and receptionists.
Somebody knows something......
I haven't found any hardware that won't run on my Mac, short of an old HP scanner and only because I didn't want to pay for a 2nd party driver. Thats ok by me, the scanner wasn't that great 5 years ago when it was new. As far as A/V gear goes, I just plug it in and it works, no disks to load, no drivers to locate online. ProTools was the only hardware that had software to load but thats not the same as driver issues.
Front end bus, clock speed and all the other tech talk just confuses me. Keeping a PC up and running frustrated me and owning a Mac freed me from both of those hassles. I don't even know the maority of Mac file extensions, but then again since I have never had to "fix" my Mac I don't need to know what they are.
A computer that ALWAYS works like it's supposed to, that I understand.
I also spend a bit of time in mid to top end recording studios and used to intern at a local television station. Macs in the production suites, PCs for internal communication and receptionists.
Somebody knows something......
Wattage
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
Fighting over PC vs. MAC is so ultra-geek it's scary.
Pick the platform you understand and "get" and build a real good machine. Recording machines are or should be purpose built and ideally that is their sole use.
Speed, memory, the fastest HDDs you can afford, quality I/O and a good recording program. The program is probably the easiest part of the equation. Make sure you decide what program you want to use first and then buy completely compatible computer gear, it'll save you from shooting your brains out.
IMO unless you are real savvy with computers, extremely patient and pretty phat in the tech gear you are probably better off with a standalone recorder then just dump the tracks to a good computer setup for mixing.
Fighting over PC vs. MAC is so ultra-geek it's scary.
Pick the platform you understand and "get" and build a real good machine. Recording machines are or should be purpose built and ideally that is their sole use.
Speed, memory, the fastest HDDs you can afford, quality I/O and a good recording program. The program is probably the easiest part of the equation. Make sure you decide what program you want to use first and then buy completely compatible computer gear, it'll save you from shooting your brains out.
IMO unless you are real savvy with computers, extremely patient and pretty phat in the tech gear you are probably better off with a standalone recorder then just dump the tracks to a good computer setup for mixing.
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martinsixstringcustoms
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
You might wanna do some research before your speak on behalf of the Mac. I don't really give a sh!t either way what someone buys, but facts are facts and your claims about the Mac are seriously flawed.
Pecan said:
You might wanna do some research before your speak on behalf of the Mac. I don't really give a sh!t either way what someone buys, but facts are facts and your claims about the Mac are seriously flawed.
Quencho092
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
All about price
I built myself a custom PC with an AMD Athlon 64 4000 processor, 4 GB of ram, and two stripe 0 raided WD 10000 rpm SATA Raptor hard drives with Sonar 5 producer edition on it. I built and upgraded it over time, but the cost is not as much as a G5, yet it outperforms my uncle's G5 w/ pro tools in mixing and recording latency and stability.
A mac could outperform a PC, and vice versa, but from my experience, the fact that you could build yourself a PC with exactly what you want and just isolate it from the internet completely you could have a less expensive system that does what you want without a problem.
All about price
I built myself a custom PC with an AMD Athlon 64 4000 processor, 4 GB of ram, and two stripe 0 raided WD 10000 rpm SATA Raptor hard drives with Sonar 5 producer edition on it. I built and upgraded it over time, but the cost is not as much as a G5, yet it outperforms my uncle's G5 w/ pro tools in mixing and recording latency and stability.
A mac could outperform a PC, and vice versa, but from my experience, the fact that you could build yourself a PC with exactly what you want and just isolate it from the internet completely you could have a less expensive system that does what you want without a problem.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Yes, but that's also not taking into account that Sonar 5 pales in comparison to programs like Nuendo, Digital Performer, Logic, and Pro Tools HD.
Yes, but that's also not taking into account that Sonar 5 pales in comparison to programs like Nuendo, Digital Performer, Logic, and Pro Tools HD.
greendy123
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
I think pc would be better as most recording equipment is more compatible with pc and recording software thats free can be found also.
I think pc would be better as most recording equipment is more compatible with pc and recording software thats free can be found also.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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No... just... :smack:
greendy123 said:
No... just... :smack:
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
HD or LE?
Death's Acre said:That's subjective. And Nuendo runs on pc, as does protools
HD or LE?
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Is it True that MAC is the Way to Go when Wanting to Record via Computer?
Honestly man, I'd go PC for you, unless you're used to Mac. The dealbreaker for me, and I'm sure you can relate to this, is the cost of software. On a Mac, I'd have to buy Digital Performer and all of my plugins. On a PC, you can 'buy' them much, much easier.
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Honestly man, I'd go PC for you, unless you're used to Mac. The dealbreaker for me, and I'm sure you can relate to this, is the cost of software. On a Mac, I'd have to buy Digital Performer and all of my plugins. On a PC, you can 'buy' them much, much easier.