Is Jimmy Page the most overrated guitarist?

I guess I just fundamentally have a problem with a Brit copy righting US blues music informally past around so some poor musicians can make a living, then hiring a bunch of lawyers to enforce the copy rights.

No offense intended to anyone from the UK! There's just something wrong with stealing another country's heritage in my opinion.
 
Whenever a famous person is "overrated", it's almost always because:
  1. Someone is jealous / thinks they are every bit as good
  2. Someone doesn't get it and wants to rail against the hype
  3. Someone got ripped off on a signature product
  4. Someone is secretly a superfan and wants to stamp down the prices of their signature product
 
I know lots of teenagers that don't understand why the Beatles were big. I think with any art form, you have to look at it in a cultural context of the times.
 
I guess I just fundamentally have a problem with a Brit copy righting US blues music informally past around so some poor musicians can make a living, then hiring a bunch of lawyers to enforce the copy rights.

No offense intended to anyone from the UK! There's just something wrong with stealing another country's heritage in my opinion.
I bring this up every time someone says Greta Van Fleet are "copying" Led Zeppelin's sound. I mean like GVF or don't but Jimmy Page didn't invent those blues riffs those guys are playing...
 
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Whenever a famous person is "overrated", it's almost always because:
  1. Someone is jealous / thinks they are every bit as good
  2. Someone doesn't get it and wants to rail against the hype
  3. Someone got ripped off on a signature product
  4. Someone is secretly a superfan and wants to stamp down the prices of their signature product

Doesn't point 2 contain two aspects that could be considered separately? I can easily be a fan of an artist whilst thinking that s/he is overhyped.
 
There is a ridiculous amount of ridiculously skilled guitar players on the interwebs today. I mean, absolutely amazing when it comes to their technical ability and all that comes with it. Yet, they haven't written any songs worth mentioning. How many of these fabulous players are underrated? Who is in charge with these ratings?
Strictly speaking from a technical perspective, I think Blackmore and Tony Iommi were pretty sloppy at times, well behind let's say David Gilmour, Jeff Beck, Hendrix or SRV in terms of precision and control of the instrument. But both were great writers, just like Page and that's what will ultimately stand the test of time. Is Tom Morello a virtuosso? Or Kurt Cobain?? Not in my opinion. Are they influential musicians? Hell yeah! EVH was perhaps the most innovative guitar player of all times, while at the same time writing some memorable songs and redefining the rhythm guitar. More often than not it's not the execution only, but the finished product.
Let's go back 300-350 years, how many violin or harpsichord players were able to exhibit jaw dropping performances in front of the European audience at the time? Hundreds? Thousands? Yet, most of us know about, and might have listened to Scarlatti, Bach, Handel, Corelli, Vivaldi, Rameau and Telemann. Where are the rest?
Wanna bash Jimmy Page? By all means go for it, just take a step back and have a bit of perspective.
 
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I am not a fan of a lot of "greats" but other people are so who is right and who is wrong? Either a person respects their work or they do not. Arguing about it makes little sense IMO. We each gravitate towards what we like and turns our crank and not everybody is wired the same. So be it. Enjoy what you like and play your guitar and make some noise. Maybe if we all did more of that we might be popular thread fodder on a forum one day.
 
I bring this up everything someone says Greta Van Fleet are "copying" Led Zeppelin's sound. I mean like GVF or don't but Jimmy Page didn't invent those blues riffs those guys are playing...

AC/DC, Aerosmith, ZZ Top and a ton of other bands base their songs on blues licks and sound nothing like each other. Greta Van Fleet are a straight up Led Zeppelin clone.
 
Part of what drives a person's opinion of who is "good" is their style of music. Also, JP was playing back when Rock'n'Roll was still being developed. In the days of Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Bad Company, etc. bands were making music that had never been made before.

The sounds were new, and each guitarist was trying to put their own mark on the music world. I don't think JP is overrated at all. He brought his unique style to Led Zep and it fit just right. Same can be said for Joe Walsh, Hendrix, Angus Young, and every other major guitarist of the time. All great...each quite different, but all great.

BUT, one thing is for sure, no one makes music like the bands of old. 80's, 90's and after were all different (better is a matter of opinion, and again, each was great in its own way, but certainly different). 70s Rock really told a story, had a lot of musical talent and heart that you didn't hear as much after the 70s, and its just really solid music which is why you still hear plenty of it still played today.
 
Let's go back 300-350 years, how many violin or harpsichord players were able to exhibit jaw dropping performances in front of the European audience at the time? Hundreds? Thousands? Yet, most of us know about, and might have listened to Scarlatti, Bach, Handel, Corelli, Vivaldi, Rameau and Telemann. Where are the rest?

The people who were performers first and foremost have been consigned to oblivion, since there was no way of sustaining their performances beyond the lived memory of those who heard them. As far as composers go, most of those guys were actually rediscovered fairly recently: only Handel truly has a continuous history of performance, and that is largely thanks to the English royal family; Rameau was likewise rediscovered to bolster French national feeling after the disasterous Franco-Prussian war of 1870-71.

There are so many other composers from this era who deserve to be rediscovered. Here is an incomplete list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baroque_composers

I know of quite a few of these names, but nowhere near all of them. Johann Joseph Fux is my particular favourite (and not for his last name alone). His relative obscurity can most likely be explained by the fact that Austria never needed a national composer from the Baroque era, since the Classic era was so well represented. I suspect that the reason not more of them are remembered simply boils down to limited mental bandwidth.
 
There are so many other composers from this era who deserve to be rediscovered. Here is an incomplete list:

Though he's from the 1800's don't forget Gioachino Rossini. Rossini had a long career, was a world-class composer, and in his day, he held renowned music parties at his home that were a "who's who" of the music world at that time.

Rossini is one of those composers where everyone knows his music, but many didn't know he was the author. Great talent.
 
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Though he's from the 1800's don't forget Gioachino Rossini. Rossini had a long career, was a world-class composer, and in his day, he held renowned music parties at his home that were a "who's who" of the music world at that time.

Rossini is one of those composers where everyone knows his music, but many didn't know he was the author. Great talent.

True. His opera overtures are not very finely constructed by Beethovinian standards, with their disparate sections, but how many great tunes within them (besides, they were good enough for Beethoven)! What would Warner Bros. ever have done without him?

However, there were some real hotshots from that era that have been completely forgot. I have yet to see a single performance of the works of Daniel Auber, who was one of the big names in opera around the same time. He was important enough for the Belgian Revolution to begin after one of his operas; Rock Around the Clock had nothing on The Mute Girl of Portici! Yet good good luck finding one of his operas produced today. I don't even think they are particularly well-represented on record.
 
I don’t care how he is ‘rated’ as a guitar player. Led Zepplin is pure music awesome and I love them!!! <3 <3 <3

You boys always make me smile how everything is a bigger better faster contest!!! :lmao:
 
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