I'm don't despise Peavey product as much as I despise Hartley. His formula for success was to locate his business in what was then the poorest county in the nation so he could pay the lowest wages. I'm a capitalist, but I wasn't into making a killing. I just wanted enough to be content. Hartley's kind of thinking is just low and mean - in the old fashioned definition of the words. Hartley meant to enrich only himself, period. Did he do it?