Is the Fender S1 any realible?

[Mincer]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

Thing is about every push/push pot I've used...is that they last about 3 years max before they start failing. So the extra $$ (and the elegance) for the S1 is worth it to me. I *wish* there would be development in more ergonomic and structurally sound parts for guitar.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

As far as reliability of the S1 goes, I briefly owned two Strats this past year that featured S1 switches - both were previously owned guitars but in excellent condition. The S1 switch on one was occasionally acting up, and on the other guitar, it was regularly acting up.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

As far as reliability of the S1 goes, I briefly owned two Strats this past year that featured S1 switches - both were previously owned guitars but in excellent condition. The S1 switch on one was occasionally acting up, and on the other guitar, it was regularly acting up.

Was that due to the switch itself or to poor soldering/cold solder joints?

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

Was that due to the switch itself or to poor soldering/cold solder joints?

The switch itself. The S1 was a stock/OEM feature on those particular Strat models..

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

The switch itself. The S1 was a stock/OEM feature on those particular Strat models..

I should clarify about the point of failure. It was more related to those funky knobs on these pots than the switch itself. The center piece of the knob was coming loose/had come loose on each guitar, and when that happened, the center piece of the knob would have rotated out of set position, and when it was like that, the switch could not be pushed. I found that i could not simply on-the-fly, rotate that piece back into 'set' postion. I would have to stop playing, take the guitar off the strap and lay it down, and finesse the center piece back and forth until it found its way back to 'set' position.

So, the switch still seemed good, but the switch temporarily became unusable when the knob acted up.

 

[MakerDP]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

$8 plus a little shipping (or less depending on what's broken).... problem solved.

https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/knob-fender-s-1-switch-stratocaster
https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/knob-cap-fender-s-1-switch-strat

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

$8 plus a little shipping (or less depending on what's broken).... problem solved.

https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/knob-fender-s-1-switch-stratocaster
https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/knob-cap-fender-s-1-switch-strat

In context of someone who already commited to buying and installing an S1 switch, yes, buying a replacement knob would resolve it. But for the same amount of money, one could purchase a push-push pot and replace the S1 with it, and not have to outlay money again. Of course, when a 2 pole switch would suffice for the wiring need.

For someone like the OP who has not yet decided on S1 or push-push, push-push is the obvious winner based on economics

 

[Mincer]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

In context of someone who already commited to buying and installing an S1 switch, yes, buying a replacement knob would resolve it. But for the same amount of money, one could purchase a push-push pot and replace the S1 with it, and not have to outlay money again. Of course, when a 2 pole switch would suffice for the wiring need.

For someone like the OP who has not yet decided on S1 or push-push, push-push is the obvious winner based on economics

Except when you have to replace it in a year, because you will. Every regular push/push switch has failed on me. Every Single One. The S1 is 10 years going strong.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

Except when you have to replace it in a year, because you will. Every regular push/push switch has failed on me. Every Single One. The S1 is 10 years going strong.

Interesting, thanks for the head's up. On my most recent project, i used push-push fir the 1st time instead of push-pull and i have not yet had a year's worth of time using them, to experience what you have.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

Except when you have to replace it in a year, because you will. Every regular push/push switch has failed on me. Every Single One. The S1 is 10 years going strong.

[EDIT: disregard, i reread
through the OPs replied to this thread; OP has a Strat; push-pull is not ergonomical on a Strat; guess OP is limited to the S1].

In lite of that, i change my recommendation to the OP, to a Push-Pull. For his wiring need, only a 2 pole switch is needed. S1 is 4 pole.

 

[MakerDP]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

For someone like the OP who has not yet decided on S1 or push-push, push-push is the obvious winner based on economics

$8 vs $32... hmmm.... don't go to Starbucks three times this month and buy the vastly superior product if you really can't part with the extra $24.

Like the old saying goes... it's cheaper to do it right the first time.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

$8 vs $32... hmmm.... don't go to Starbucks three times this month and buy the vastly superior product if you really can't part with the extra $24.

Like the old saying goes... it's cheaper to do it right the first time.

Like i wrote above, i wasnt aware until Mincer reported it later in this thread, that push-push's have a reliability problem. I just switched to them from push-pulls, first tine using them -love the ergonomics of them - but now i am being told they might fail in a year's time. I will just have to see.

Other than that, there is no reason to use a 4 pole switch (S1) to do the job that a 2 pole switch can handle.

 

[Queeny12]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

Had my S1 for 2 years now, very pleased with it, I recommend.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

Except when you have to replace it in a year, because you will. Every regular push/push switch has failed on me. Every Single One. The S1 is 10 years going strong.

Mincer, just curious, was it the potentiometer itself that has failed on you, or the spring assembly on the push-push?

 

[Mincer]

Re: Is the Fender S1 any realible?

Mincer, just curious, was it the potentiometer itself that has failed on you, or the spring assembly on the push-push?

It was the spring in the push/push.