Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

[fab.regnaut]

They have the same resonnance pick ( 8 khz = good treeble and pick attack ) , what is the differences in term of construction ( magnet , wiring ...) and in term of sound ( witch is the most powerfull , the most able to bite with high gain , the most able to riff a la Mickael Romeo , with guitar tune in D , etc ..) .
The Full shred has minimum basses but is ther still enought ? as i tried the Carvin M22n and the Humbucker From Hell ;they are treebly but they can't rumble in riffing .

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

You use your neck pickup for riffing? Some guitarists I know do this, and it sounds horrible. I think the neck pickup should be for leads and cleans only, when you riff on one, it sounds way too muddy and undefined.

That said, the Jazz and FS as far as I understand are actually quite similar, with the Jazz being more glassy. I love my Jazz, but have never tried an FS.

 

[HarrisonDavid]

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Yeah I don't like to play rhythm in the neck position either. You know it's funny though, On a Les Paul the Rythm toggle is the neck! Correct? Anyways I went to a local vintage guitar buyer yesterday....I seen an old Epiphone Randy Rhodes stlye V with a Kramer like neck....like the explorer. Well I noticed that there was a Dimebucker in the neck position. I thought that was strange. I think he was selling it for like 340 dollars. Looks interesting.....A little off topic sorry.

I would go with the Jazz for the neck positon for solos.....Now on the other hand if your going to play Riffs there dude I think a full shred. I have tried neither though someone here will give you way better advise though.

 

[Neeradj]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

They have the same resonnance pick ( 8 khz = good treeble and pick attack ) , what is the differences in term of construction ( magnet , wiring ...) and in term of sound ( witch is the most powerfull , the most able to bite with high gain , the most able to riff a la Mickael Romeo , with guitar tune in D , etc ..) .
The Full shred has minimum basses but is ther still enought ? as i tried the Carvin M22n and the Humbucker From Hell ;they are treebly but they can't rumble in riffing .

The Jazz is more articulate, fatter and creamier than the FS, both have huge attack though. The FS has more bite to it, I think neither will really get you that Michael Romeo sound cuz he uses the X2N which is a whole different pick up. I love my Jazz but after having heard clips I'd be sure to check out the FS neck as well

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

Yeah I don't like to play rhythm in the neck position either. You know it's funny though, On a Les Paul the Rythm toggle is the neck! Correct?

Remember, LP's we're made before distortion was really big .

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

Yes i want to use the neck pickup for riffing to get a more vintage tone , a bit softer than the bridge one ( DD at the moment ) , as far as my trys went the screaming demon is the winner at it but it is a bit hard ( thick) as it come to solo , it's not as delicate as 59 or Jazz , wich is understandable being conceived as bridge p-u when the string resonnance is thinner .
My questions are remaining till someone that experienced both Jazz and Full Shred neck give us his knowledge .
Thanks guys .

 

[Davey]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

nothing to add to the question at hand... but sometimes i play riythm through the neck pup just to piss people off hehe

 

[BachToRock]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

You might want to try a Jazz or Full Shred Neck with an Alnico II magnet as this will make them less woofy and more riffable

 

[TDevilG]

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I use the Jazz for my ESP, and although it has the best articulation AND perhaps one of the best pickups to combo with, I can't see it as a good rhythm pickup, and therefore I don't recommend it. Like I said, because of its great artculation it's great for lead playing, but it doesn't sound good for rhythm riffs.

 

[bloodswords]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

they serve different needs.

from a personal perspective, the FS in the neck produces one of the clearest, single note definition at high gain. the reason i love it. can't say the same for the Jazz though...

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

they serve different needs.

from a personal perspective, the FS in the neck produces one of the clearest, single note definition at high gain. the reason i love it. can't say the same for the Jazz though...

I understand it is a clear p-u but is it , with the minimum bass it's got , powerfull enought for riffing ?
As i understand this p-u it is a hotter p-u than the Jazz ( tone charts ) but all treeble and more mids to cut with clarity , so i was wondering if i change the screw of the neck row for regular one it could be fatter if needed more bass , but my main concern before to try it is : is it powerfull and treebly ( bity ) enough ?

 

[theodie]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

You might want to try a Jazz or Full Shred Neck with an Alnico II magnet as this will make them less woofy and more riffable

I am wondering if the Jazz with an alnico II magnet would be an alnico II pro? I think I heard that somewhere. by looking at their resistances, I am think it may be a possiblitly.

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

I am not into alnico2 for humbuckers because you loose treebles and you basses get loose , even if you gain on mids .

 

[suislidE03]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

Yes i want to use the neck pickup for riffing to get a more vintage tone , a bit softer than the bridge one ( DD at the moment ) , as far as my trys went the screaming demon is the winner at it but it is a bit hard ( thick) as it come to solo , it's not as delicate as 59 or Jazz , wich is understandable being conceived as bridge p-u when the string resonnance is thinner .
My questions are remaining till someone that experienced both Jazz and Full Shred neck give us his knowledge .
Thanks guys .

Did my advice and clip not help you?

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

Yes it helped , but it is hard to make a statement on a sound where the P-U is just a piece in the signal chain , your clean sounded very straty and your distortion didn't feel of tube , very different .
cheers

 

[suislidE03]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

Well no, the only thing i can use to record is my Line6 guitarport, i dont have a mic or anything. I mean it is a very bright pickup compared to the other SD humbuckers, especially clean, but it has bass so it doesnt sound too much like a single coil. I will tell you that it sounds more like a strat split than any HB that i have heard, more than a JB....

 

[Jeff5]

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Honestly your ears have to tell you. Most folks here highly recommend a Jazz. I have a FS shred and don't like it much. Too similar to my bridge pup in sound, and it doesn't have the thick, bluesy tone that I like from a neck humbucker. It does have pretty tight lows and is pretty articulate. Just not for me.

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

Well after all i think i will have to try it ...
Anybody tried to change a row of allen screws to regular scews ( slotted ) to see if the Full Shred can have more bass ( fatter ) without losing too much treeble ?
( Do this to the row the closest to the neck so it could improve - if needed the split sound )
So it would have the look of the Screaming Demon ; different kind of scews make a lot of difference . ( and it is easy and reversible )

 

[fab.regnaut]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

One day i tried on the treeble E string to exchange the slotted screws and the allen scew in a Demon and i reversed it strait away because the pickup was piercing my ears with squeeling treeble !

 

[TechMetalMan]

Re: Is the full shred neck better than Jazz neck?

I use my A2P in my neck for regular rock stuff sometimes when i goof around...stuff that just needs to be "heavy" but not really extreme high gain. IT sounds thick and full without being woofy at all...but I run my bass pretty low.