Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

[Fuhgawz]

...and if so, could you please point me in the right direction of coming up with a schematic/diagram for it? I've wired a few Gibson style guitars over the years, but this is my first Strat so I'm not really familiar with the electronics and could use some help.

What I want to achieve, if possible, is this:

Controls:
1. Volume bridge humbucker only
2. Volume middle and neck single coil
3. Master tone

Switch:
1. Bridge humbucker only
2. Middle SC only
3. Middle SC + Neck SC - parallel
4. Neck SC only
5. Middle SC + Neck SC - series

The separate volumes are most important to me. I care less about the series/parallel options, but I do think that this would leave me with a very practical and versatile guitar.

 

[Hank-]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Yup, that can be done for volumeshttps://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...s-I-give-up!&p=3628943&viewfull=1#post3628943
Ignore the treble bleed & switch label saying 8pole, its a two pole switch I think, i'm not very good with switch types lol the diagram in the end of the thread is it.

But i liked a different way that sounded better overall. https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...-converting-to-HS-Strat-3-way-2-volume-2-tone
The diagrm from first post, but with master volume moved to neck&middle & separate volume for bridge with treble bleed(kinmann mod) on both volumes. It allows to have a better balance between the humbucker at the bridge & single coils without over loading the pickups a lot.

No idea for other stuff you wanted.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Just drew this up.. I think this meets your requirements. Now I could of gotten the solution wrong but I dont think I did even though it does happen from time to time LOL. Others might chime in to point out problems with my drawing if any. Always good to have your peers proofread your drawings IMO

Ill have to color it later to make it more readable.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

******t.. Just noticed.. I left a off a few grounds.. meh..will add when i color

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

The color code i used is a hogpog of SD and my own.. SD color code for the humbucker (i.e.black,red,white,green)but I also used the same colors for the SC's as well instead of the black/white. I thought it would be to confusing so I went with black(+) and green(-) for consistency besides lt. grey dont show up very well on a white background
My color codes:
signal:magenta
ground:thin black
tone:blue
jumper:light blue
nodes or solder points: grey circles

 

[Artie]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Hey Neil; Nice diagram, but . . . it's too late, and I'm too tired, to peruse the whole thing, but I can say that for the neck and middle to be in series, you can never have they're two grounds hard wired together. I'll look this over closer in the morning , and post my take on it.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Hey Neil; Nice diagram, but . . . it's too late, and I'm too tired, to peruse the whole thing, but I can say that for the neck and middle to be in series, you can never have they're two grounds hard wired together. I'll look this over closer in the morning , and post my take on it.

hard wired together..? Maby I should of drawn the 2 grounds from the SC differently if thats what you're talking about.. Id just solder them both to the parts of the switch that i dedicated to the grounds .. ill draw it different. I knew what I meant but others might be confused..

Reason I love the superswitch as you can dedicated each part of it for something.. In this case.. neck,middle,output,ground

Ill make a few changes to the drawing to clear it up a bit

edit>>
or was it how i did the bridge pup ground.. I think I see what you meant if thats what you meant.. My fault.. a bit lazy I think.. Ill correct it in a few.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Hey Neil; Nice diagram, but . . . it's too late, and I'm too tired, to peruse the whole thing, but I can say that for the neck and middle to be in series, you can never have they're two grounds hard wired together. I'll look this over closer in the morning , and post my take on it.

ok here is a revised drawing.. This looks right to me. I left the original up so you could review and compare if needed

I do have one question though? is there an advantage/disadvantage to hooking the tone pot up before or after the wiper of the pot?


edit.. well .. someone is not awake. I didnt see thatyou said the neck and middle could not be grounded together untill after i revised the drawing. . I see what you mean but at the same time, i dont think it would make a difference..But i dont know that either ..you might be correct.. On the surface, it definitely makes sense but at the same times a voice in my head says it should not matter

but if it does. Just ground the neck pup to one of the pots

my logic: in position 5.. neck hot goes to lug 5 to the common, then to the N+M pot.. then ground to make a complete circuit

at the same time the middle pup's hot it thrown to ground so the circuit is +,-,+,- i.e. series.. Atleast that is my interpretation.. Doesnt matter where the neck and mid pup grounds connect as ground is still ground.. Now It might not be good practice to do it in such a way. I cant argue with that as I dont know.. LOL..

If the OP has any doubts, just connect the neck pups ground to a pot.

 

[Fuhgawz]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Wow, thanks for all the hard work! I really appreciate it! ^^ To be honest, I didn't expect too many reactions so fast, let alone an entire wiring diagram. I don't have much time to check it out today, but I will spend some more time on trying to understand it tomorrow.

Thanks again.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Wow, thanks for all the hard work! I really appreciate it! ^^ To be honest, I didn't expect too many reactions so fast, let alone an entire wiring diagram. I don't have much time to check it out today, but I will spend some more time on trying to understand it tomorrow.

Thanks again.

NP.. I'm known for drawing up diagrams for people here.. I've drawn so many in the last couple of months, I've had to organize them into a library of sorts....

It helps people out and further increases my skill in doing yet more drawings.. LOL.. Kinda a hobby that just happened over time I guess..

here is the revised drawing .. only think different is the where the neck 'pup ground is connected


Sure wish i had a cheap strat and set it up as a testbed, so I could test all my wiring diagrams. I know they should work but it would be awesome hearing these ideas work

 

[Artie]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Still doesn't look right to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have the middle pup totally shorted out? If that blue line is a jumper, you do.



I'll redraw this in a bit, but I've got two customer guitars that I've got to get out first.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Still doesn't look right to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have the middle pup totally shorted out? If that blue line is a jumper, you do.

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I'll redraw this in a bit, but I've got two customer guitars that I've got to get out first.

well.. it is a well well established fact that I can never be wrong.. mistaken.. yea, from time to time but never wrong j/k

you are correct though.. trying to keep everything together i failed to see the obvious.. in anycase.. I think this will be correct


ever so often.. i really botch drawings it would seem. Ive had several successes here lately so im about due for a f*ck up..I think this should get the op there

 

[Artie]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

But you still have both singles grounded. They can never be in series wired like that. Gimme a sec . . .

Note that the series connection has the neg of one coil going into the pos of the other.

I'll try to draw up the whole thing when I've got a sec.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

But you still have both singles grounded. They can never be in series wired like that. Gimme a sec . . .

Note that the series connection has the neg of one coil going into the pos of the other.

I'll try to draw up the whole thing when I've got a sec.

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ok i feel stupid.. i fixed it.. uploading in a sec

 

[Artie]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Here's mine quik-'n-dirty, cause I'm in the middle of another project. I can make it "neater" later.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

apologies to the op for bumbling this up..

I knew what series was but .. for some reason I had issues with this drawing.. I think this should be ok finally

 

[Artie]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Hmmm. Looking it over. The thing is, you only need 3 quadrants of the superswitch to do this. Trying to see what you're doing with that 4th quadrant. :scratchch

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

Hmmm. Looking it over. The thing is, you only need 3 quadrants of the superswitch to do this. Trying to see what you're doing with that 4th quadrant. :scratchch

yes... i use the whole switch. I could of done it with 3.. Connected the ground of the neck to the 1st quadrant/5 lug and add a jumper to the 3rd to 5th as well.. but that would of made my drawing messier than it already is!!! lol

 

[Artie]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

And of course, there's several different ways to skin a cat.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Is this HSS Strat wiring possible...

im still learning here.. ive come along way but occasionally i drop the ball.. this is one of those times I think