is this what a Super Distortion sounds like?

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It isn't? Well, it's still my favorite version, no matter what anybody thinks :D
 
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I think ACE is the biggest endorser of the DSD,he has used one since 1972 when they first were made. i would ask him about the DSD if i could!:)
 
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The SuperD definitely has more highs than it gets credit for. Dimarzio generalizing happens - and in general, DMZ's are more bass and mids.

Overall, I generally feel the super D is a very flexible pickup. It's got more highs, less output etc...than everyone thinks. The two rows keep it tight and very tweekable.
 
Too many people crap on the DSD and JB.
Super D was the first pickup I bought to install. Bought due to ACE using it. My grandpa taught me how to solder and change them out so I will always like it for that.

But quite a versatile pickup really. I almost always try a DSD and JB in every guitar first.
 
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Ed Hunter said:
I think ACE is the biggest endorser of the DSD,he has used one since 1972 when they first were made. i would ask him about the DSD if i could!:)
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It was actually 1975 or so when he started using it. The first few albums are different. By the time the Alive! album shows were being recorded, he was using it. Heck, he may have been using it at the time of Dressed to Kill being recorded. It's definitely on Alive! so somewhere between the first couple records and those shows.

I'm a fan of the SuperD. It's really versatile and sounds great in parallel mode too. Easily one of my favorite bridge pickups.

FTR, I like the Sonic Boom re-recordings. Still sounds like KISS to me. Thayer uses a JB though, not a DSD.
 
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Jeff5 said:
For Tribute, isn't Randy using a Super D in his live set up for most of those songs?
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depends on what song ;)

Over ther Mountain-White Jackson (tuned to Eb)
I don't Know-Les Paul/Black Jackson
Crazy Train-Les Paul
Believer-White Jackson (tuned to Eb)
Flying High-White Jackson/Black Jackson (tuned to Eb)
Mr Crowley-Sandoval polka dot V
Revalation-Les Paul
Steal Away-Les Paul
Suicide Solution/Spotlight solo-Sandoval polka dot V
Iron Man-Les Paul
Children of the Grave-Les Paul
Paranoid-Les Paul
Goodbye To Romance-Les Paul
No Bone Movies-Les Paul
You Said it All-Les Paul

Les Paul = stock
V = Super Distortion
Jackson = Duncans

however, Max Norman revealed that most of BOO was recorded with the PDV...
 
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uOpt said:
What is a PDV?
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its his abbreviation for the polka dot V. But the assertion is a bit bone head since its well known that Randy didnt know any of the Jacksons during the recording of Blizzard of Ozz its been common knowlege that the whole album is the Polka dot V and the Les Paul double tracked.

What any of this has to do with the Super D I have no idea but Dean Sweden seems to get a hard on from digging up old threads and adding useless rockstar trivia to them.
 
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Edgecrusher said:
What any of this has to do with the Super D I have no idea.
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are you really that stupid?
did you by any chance miss what I quoted? I'll do it again, just for you...

For Tribute, isn't Randy using a Super D in his live set up for most of those songs?
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so, Tribute is a livealbum, or are you gonna argue about that too?
since I'm a Randy Rhoads fan, I posted which guitar he used ON STAGE(that's live, in front of an audience, but I guess you're not familiar with that?)
during his time with Ozzy.
 
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DeanSweden said:
are you really that stupid?
did you by any chance miss what I quoted? I'll do it again, just for you...



so, Tribute is a livealbum, or are you gonna argue about that too?
since I'm a Randy Rhoads fan, I posted which guitar he used ON STAGE(that's live, in front of an audience, but I guess you're not familiar with that?)
during his time with Ozzy.
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Hey scoobie ill clue you in on something unless someone TOLD you which songs are SuperD's instead of T-Tops you cant tell which is why its a worthless comparison. Tell me which tracks on Blizzard of ozz are the Les Paul and which are the V? YOU CANT thats why bringing it up and arguing about it is worthless. Get it? All this trivia about who used what when doesnt help pick out a pickup if the mix makes it so that you cant tell which song was a Les Paul with a Ttop or a V with a SuperD how does this do anyone any good trying to find a pickup.

Not to mention you drudged up a 6 month old post to add your little of spew it wasnt like it was an active thread it was you going through old threads looking for somewhere to argue a point that doesnt matter.
 
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Edgecrusher said:
Hey scoobie ill clue you in on something unless someone TOLD you which songs are SuperD's instead of T-Tops you cant tell which is why its a worthless comparison. Tell me which tracks on Blizzard of ozz are the Les Paul and which are the V? YOU CANT thats why bringing it up and arguing about it is worthless. Get it? All this trivia about who used what when doesnt help pick out a pickup if the mix makes it so that you cant tell which song was a Les Paul with a Ttop or a V with a SuperD how does this do anyone any good trying to find a pickup.
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I can't say, nor do I know, which guitar was used for which song on BOO,
nor did I claim to. I did however post what guitars was used on the TRIBUTE album,
since that was what the quoted poster was asking about. Please tell me how that was starting
an argument?

Not to mention you drudged up a 6 month old post to add your little of spew it wasnt like it was an active thread it was you going through old threads looking for somewhere to argue a point that doesnt matter.
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Ok, so that's where it hurts ;) you throw a TOTALLY POINTLESS tantrum over me digging up
an "old" thread. Should I feel offended? Well, I don't. I do however feel sorry for you for even
taking the time to throw a hissy-fit like that, but hey, if you ain't got something better to do...
 
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DeanSweden said:
I can't say, nor do I know, which guitar was used for which song on BOO,
nor did I claim to. I did however post what guitars was used on the TRIBUTE album,
since that was what the quoted poster was asking about. Please tell me how that was starting
an argument?



Ok, so that's where it hurts ;) you throw a TOTALLY POINTLESS tantrum over me digging up
an "old" thread. Should I feel offended? Well, I don't. I do however feel sorry for you for even
taking the time to throw a hissy-fit like that, but hey, if you ain't got something better to do...
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The point is the same unless someone tells you which guitar is which on the Tribute album you cant tell them apart you seem to be missing that. For a fanboy its interesting info for help deciding what a Super D sounds like its not a useful example.
 
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I have only recently become acquainted with Super Ds, because they came stock in my Dean ML. I like them a lot, but they are quite different than any other pickup I use (mostly "vintage" output pickups). The tone itself is pretty versatile. You can change the e.q. a lot with pickup setup and amp settings. However, it's the attack and dynamics that are very different than what I'm used to. They are NOT subtle pickups. They don't do clean and gentle easily...and even when they do, they sound like a caged lion...not really allowed to do their thing.

They are really compressed; they aren't very sensitive to my usual picking dynamics. I am used to getting my breakup, cleans, and other tonal changes by the way I pick. But with the Super Ds, I have learned to: 1) lay way back on my pick attack when using them, because giving the pick extra force really doesn't do that much to change anything anyhow...so might as well be lazy, 2) use my volume knob more to affect my tone. I can normally change the tone (and volume) drastically by simply lightening up my attack with the pick; I can't do it with the Super Ds. So I find myself using the volume knob more, 3) I've also found that I like them better with lighter strings than I normally use. My go-to set is 11-54 with a wound G. With the Super Ds, I really like 11-48 with a plain G.
 
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Edgecrusher said:
The point is the same unless someone tells you which guitar is which on the Tribute album you cant tell them apart you seem to be missing that. For a fanboy its interesting info for help deciding what a Super D sounds like its not a useful example.
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but I just said which guitar were used on which song ;)
it's been witnessed by people who saw Randy live at the time.
And yes, you can tell the difference between the Super Distortion
and the T-tops ;) the 'After Hours' is another fine example :)
 
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A big, big part of the Super Distortion sound is the amp you play it through. The rest is the pickup itself, the guitar it's in, effects and perhaps most important: the player.

That said, some classic recorded Super Distortion sounds came from Al Dimeola with Return To Forever and Tom Sholz with Boston.
 
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My Charvel came loaded with Super D's and I never got around to trying other pickups for years. I was kinda a fan of Al Dimeola during those years and learned to play several of his songs so it suited me fine. A Super D does sound quite different in a Charvel than it does in a Les Paul of course. Its more in your face in Fender type instrument. I agree with these observations:

They are really compressed; they aren't very sensitive to my usual picking dynamics. I am used to getting my breakup, cleans, and other tonal changes by the way I pick. But with the Super Ds, I have learned to: 1) lay way back on my pick attack when using them, because giving the pick extra force really doesn't do that much to change anything anyhow...so might as well be lazy, 2) use my volume knob more to affect my tone. I can normally change the tone (and volume) drastically by simply lightening up my attack with the pick; I can't do it with the Super Ds. So I find myself using the volume knob more,
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This was why when my own playing matured I began to value pickups with better picking dynamics and tryed several other pickups in the Charvel. It is hard to explain the sound of a Super D with Words but you know what it sounds like.

For Tribute, isn't Randy using a Super D in his live set up for most of those songs?
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I think that is true. Several years before the cleaned up and edited Tribute album was released, a fellow guitarist gave me a bootleg of what became the tribute album. In its its raw form you can hear the sound of the Super D.
 
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Lewguitar said:
A big, big part of the Super Distortion sound is the amp you play it through. The rest is the pickup itself, the guitar it's in, effects and perhaps most important: the player.

That said, some classic recorded Super Distortion sounds came from Al Dimeola with Return To Forever and Tom Sholz with Boston.
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Listen to Lew.Therevare two pickups in the wrold that are beyond reproach. One is the SuperD, the other is thr JB.
You must understand that both pickuops are geared for a Marshall amp, circa late 70's/early 80's.
Duncan JB was created for a Superstrat, and the SuperD was aimed for a Les Paul.
These pickups are ageless and timeless. They were both created out of pure genius. IMHO< they still are the greatest pickups ever made.
You can still achieve what you want with eitehr a SuperD or a JB.
A SuperD in a Les Paul is still, after all these years, the benchmark for calssioc marshall sound, as is the JB in a Superstrat.
 
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