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Mine's putting about 460 volts nominal on the screens. The screens are fed 460 volts nominal off the transformer, then through 100 ohm resistors pin 6 (just as anchors) to pin 4.

I guess that drops the screen voltage down to 450 or less.

Maybe I need to up those 100 ohms to higher? I don't know.

Wiring diagram (schematic) is avaialable on the Mojotone website if youre interested.
 
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if its really 450v, i think youre ok? its high but not ridiculous or anything. 500v is 6550 territory
 
Mine's putting about 460 volts nominal on the screens. The screens are fed 460 volts nominal off the transformer, then through 100 ohm resistors pin 6 (just as anchors) to pin 4.

I guess that drops the screen voltage down to 450 or less.

Maybe I need to up those 100 ohms to higher? I don't know.

Wiring diagram (schematic) is avaialable on the Mojotone website if youre interested.

If memory serves, my Quickrod is putting out about 460v, maybe more….it’s been a while since I’ve needed to bias so I forget the exact reading. I think you’re about what you should be.
 
Teething troubles. Advice needed please.

What causes a nasty buzz from the amp tubes when I strum a little harder than a gentle strum?

The amp, when resting, is nice and quiet. No hum, no buzzes, no pops or bangs, nothing is overheating.

If i strum gently, no problems. But if I strum a bit more aggressively, i get these sounds like electric arc-ing: nasty buzzes. This all happens at low volumes. I haven't tried turning it up high yet for obvious reasons.

The EL34s are set at around 28 mA (measured by getting around 28 mV across the 1 ohm resistors I put in the tube grounds) and I am using a brand new set of four balanced JJ EL34s. AFAIK they're all good, bit I don't have a tube tester. I'm not seeing any of them suddenly going bright red and burning out.

The three ECC83s and the single ECC81 in the preamp stage seem fine, and swapping those around with spare ECC83s I have from my Origin50 doesn't alleviate the problem. I've got a brand new ECC81 on the way, that should arrive today.

I've seen YouTube vids by Stuart Smith, a decent UK amp repair guy in England, where he often says JJs, 4 tube Marshall's and high plate voltages can cause "arc-ing over", and I'm thinking that's what I'm hearing. But I'm not sure that's what he means, so a description of this would help.

I also had this noise on my Origin50 a while back, and the Marshall official repair shop in Houston said my tubes were "weak". He replaced them, re-biased and all is now good there.

Also, if I run the Hiwatt clone with just two tubes, I dont get this problem.

I'm going over my wiring again, but is there anything specific anyone can suggest checking?

Also, I've heard comments about running JJs at high plate voltages can be the issue. "They're not as good as they used to be" kind of thing.

I presume the "plate voltage" refers to either the anode voltages (pins 3) or the screen grids (pins 4). The pins 3 are at around 467 volts, the pins 4 around 450-460. I don't know how I could drop the anode voltages as they're connected directly to the output transformer. The screen grids are fed through 100 ohm resistors. I could up those 100 ohm units to, say, 120 or 150 ohms, but I'm not sure that's the right thing to do. The control grids (pins 5) are fed through 22k ohm resistors, BTW. Those could be changed too. All the resistors are metal film 1% tolerance and were individually checked by multimeter before fitting.
 
if its really 450v, i think youre ok? its high but not ridiculous or anything. 500v is 6550 territory

Just measured the screen grids at the "downstream" ends of the 100 ohm resistors to the screen grids (pin #4).

449.5 volts, right on the limit!

I'm thinking of changing the 100 ohm resistors to 110 or 120 ohms. Will that help my noise problem?

I had the same issue a while back with my Origin 50 and the tech at the Marshall approved repair place in Houston reckoned the JJs were "weak".

I'm beginning to think they're being run too close to the limit.

I can either change the resistors, or try a different tube brand, or both.

Waddie-ya-think?
 
Holy crap! That looks awesome! Nice work! What cab/speakers you running again?

I bought a used, scruffy but electrically sound, Line6 4x12 for $125 at the GC in College Station. It has Chinese Celestion 80 watt drivers in it, but at least the cabinet is mostly plywood not MDF. I'm toying with swapping the drivers for either GTM12-65 65 watt Creambacks or Fanes. Doesn't really need doing though, and the cost of four of those would nearly pay for another amp kit.
 
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