I've experienced a "Blackout"!
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daemon barbeque
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Now that's a great Idea.The 60A is my Fav Active PU ,and the Idea Behind it is great too.
But IMHO ,the Market is great enough.Copying is not a great movement for such a great company.Creating os the way to go ,like the PATBs!
Now that's a great Idea.The 60A is my Fav Active PU ,and the Idea Behind it is great too.
But IMHO ,the Market is great enough.Copying is not a great movement for such a great company.Creating os the way to go ,like the PATBs!
Darth Nihilus
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Re: I've experienced a "Blackout"!
Dude, these pups are supreme! When you hear them, you'll never want to play your EMG's again. EMG should be worried because there's no way anyone would want to play EMG's when compared to the Blackouts.
Dude, these pups are supreme! When you hear them, you'll never want to play your EMG's again. EMG should be worried because there's no way anyone would want to play EMG's when compared to the Blackouts.
daemon barbeque
Zuhahahaologist
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Hey Darth!I am certain that those blackouts are supreme.I know Evan and i know how he "pushes" the limits to get better and better.
I just don't want the Blackout project as a "Make EMGs better and steal their customers" thing.It's all about "invention" and "creativity"!
So making just better EMGs is not a good work for me.Let EMG make their PUs better.
OTOH ,i am for good actives ,and i want to benefit from common technology with a heart of an artist.But as i stated ,i don't want that SD turns to a "custom EMG" shop.
The Mustaines for example are a great invention.Actives with typical JB/Jazz mojo in it.
I wish SD is going to create the ultimate active lines ,wich can beat any LiveWires ,EMGs,Reflexes etc.
BTW ,KOTOR is one of my fav games ever hahahah!:headbang: :firedevil
Hey Darth!I am certain that those blackouts are supreme.I know Evan and i know how he "pushes" the limits to get better and better.
I just don't want the Blackout project as a "Make EMGs better and steal their customers" thing.It's all about "invention" and "creativity"!
So making just better EMGs is not a good work for me.Let EMG make their PUs better.
OTOH ,i am for good actives ,and i want to benefit from common technology with a heart of an artist.But as i stated ,i don't want that SD turns to a "custom EMG" shop.
The Mustaines for example are a great invention.Actives with typical JB/Jazz mojo in it.
I wish SD is going to create the ultimate active lines ,wich can beat any LiveWires ,EMGs,Reflexes etc.
BTW ,KOTOR is one of my fav games ever hahahah!:headbang: :firedevil
Darth Nihilus
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I know what you mean. I simply used EMG as a guide to what these pups sound like just like when someone says for example, that a Dimarzio Super Distortion sounds similar to a Duncan Distortion. I don't think those sound alike but I could see someone putting them in the same category when talking about of aggressive, high output passive pups. I recently heard the Metal LiveWire for the first time and I would also state that it's very EMG sounding, in that it's a hi-fi type of tone.
I don't think it's a bad idea for someone to make an active line of pups that start off where another's left off. Sh!t, that's what every pup manufacturer does anyway, right? I mean, how many pups out there exist that are supposed to sound like vintage P.A.F.'s.....exactly, tons! No difference here with regards to actives. The Duncan "Blackouts" have that inherent active tone (clear hi-fi-type tone) but the distortion character is different from the EMG's. It's crunchy whereas the EMG's are fuzzy.
BTW, I don't really play videogames but I see my brother play KOTOR all the time and I enjoy it that way!
I know what you mean. I simply used EMG as a guide to what these pups sound like just like when someone says for example, that a Dimarzio Super Distortion sounds similar to a Duncan Distortion. I don't think those sound alike but I could see someone putting them in the same category when talking about of aggressive, high output passive pups. I recently heard the Metal LiveWire for the first time and I would also state that it's very EMG sounding, in that it's a hi-fi type of tone.
I don't think it's a bad idea for someone to make an active line of pups that start off where another's left off. Sh!t, that's what every pup manufacturer does anyway, right? I mean, how many pups out there exist that are supposed to sound like vintage P.A.F.'s.....exactly, tons! No difference here with regards to actives. The Duncan "Blackouts" have that inherent active tone (clear hi-fi-type tone) but the distortion character is different from the EMG's. It's crunchy whereas the EMG's are fuzzy.
BTW, I don't really play videogames but I see my brother play KOTOR all the time and I enjoy it that way!
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Darth Nihilus
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Evan, I understand the Blackouts are coming out in neck & bridge versions. What I want to know is if the two pups are essentially the same pup but calibrated for their given positions or are they both different in tone similar to how a EMG 81 and 85 are different from each other? Can either Blackout pup be used in any position?
This thread should be made into a sticky so as to keep people aware of the new Duncan pickup coming out!
Evan, I understand the Blackouts are coming out in neck & bridge versions. What I want to know is if the two pups are essentially the same pup but calibrated for their given positions or are they both different in tone similar to how a EMG 81 and 85 are different from each other? Can either Blackout pup be used in any position?
This thread should be made into a sticky so as to keep people aware of the new Duncan pickup coming out!
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Re: I've experienced a "Blackout"!
"The “other” USA-made active humbuckers use unbalanced inputs in a differential preamp. The problem is, an unbalanced differential preamp is not very effective at cancelling hum. Our engineers figured out how to capture the tone that players want in an active design, but using balanced inputs. The result is 12dB to 14dB less noise, plus more lows, more highs, and more output. Simply put, Blackouts have more tone than other active pickups."
How want less mid? Thats a big disappointment.
"The “other” USA-made active humbuckers use unbalanced inputs in a differential preamp. The problem is, an unbalanced differential preamp is not very effective at cancelling hum. Our engineers figured out how to capture the tone that players want in an active design, but using balanced inputs. The result is 12dB to 14dB less noise, plus more lows, more highs, and more output. Simply put, Blackouts have more tone than other active pickups."
How want less mid? Thats a big disappointment.
Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: I've experienced a "Blackout"!
The neck and bridge Blackouts are very different pickups with different magnets.
The neck and bridge Blackouts are very different pickups with different magnets.
KeeperOS
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Damn, I've actually been avoiding buying a couple of EMG (81/85) equipped guitars that I liked simply because they could do Metallica very well but not much more.
Every EMG equipped guitar I ever tried with the Exception of a Vigier (that simply sounded too heavy, if you can imagine that) sounded... well, yes, the tried word is sterile, the distorted sound was dull and the cleans were ever worse...
This may very well turn the tables!
Evan, one or two questions if you will, could you tell us how it sounds clean?
Thanks, can't wait to listen to it!
EDIT: Never mind the specs, found them (duh :doh
Damn, I've actually been avoiding buying a couple of EMG (81/85) equipped guitars that I liked simply because they could do Metallica very well but not much more.
Every EMG equipped guitar I ever tried with the Exception of a Vigier (that simply sounded too heavy, if you can imagine that) sounded... well, yes, the tried word is sterile, the distorted sound was dull and the cleans were ever worse...
This may very well turn the tables!
Evan, one or two questions if you will, could you tell us how it sounds clean?
Thanks, can't wait to listen to it!
EDIT: Never mind the specs, found them (duh :doh
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pstarove
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Evan, what do you mean by saying they have different magnets? Doesn't the tone comparison chart say they both have Alnico 5 bars?
In fact, I was a bit surprised when I saw that besause I knew that 81 used ceramic and 85 used alnico (I dunno if it is a 5 or a 2).
Evan, what do you mean by saying they have different magnets? Doesn't the tone comparison chart say they both have Alnico 5 bars?
In fact, I was a bit surprised when I saw that besause I knew that 81 used ceramic and 85 used alnico (I dunno if it is a 5 or a 2).
Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: I've experienced a "Blackout"!
The tone chart is wrong. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It should say that the bridge uses ceramic and the neck uses alnico (I hope I didn't get that backwards).
I'll fix it.
The tone chart is wrong. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It should say that the bridge uses ceramic and the neck uses alnico (I hope I didn't get that backwards).
I'll fix it.
_Guitarzan_
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Any word on the 7 string versions?
Any word on the 7 string versions?
_Guitarzan_
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Darth Nihilus
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Dude, I'm pissed. I was first told we would get the Blackout this April, then May and now I heard they won't be out 'til ........AUGUST!!!
What the hell. Is Japan having trouble getting these things out?
Dude, I'm pissed. I was first told we would get the Blackout this April, then May and now I heard they won't be out 'til ........AUGUST!!!
What the hell. Is Japan having trouble getting these things out?
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Philcguitars
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Now, when do we get the 'expander modules' to go with these babies? Or will the EMG ones work with them? That's what makes EMG work for me, because as you must know by now, I don't have the love for standard tone controls.
As for EMG being sterile. I guess it is down to which Pu you use, what you play, and how you process it. Whether that's just straight into an amp or through FX or a board. Anyway I like both the EMG sound and SD's I've heard too.
That said, the tone I get from my SA's stands out above my current stock pick-ups, however I plug and play, and I am looking forward to getting my SD's in other guitars.
Now, when do we get the 'expander modules' to go with these babies? Or will the EMG ones work with them? That's what makes EMG work for me, because as you must know by now, I don't have the love for standard tone controls.
As for EMG being sterile. I guess it is down to which Pu you use, what you play, and how you process it. Whether that's just straight into an amp or through FX or a board. Anyway I like both the EMG sound and SD's I've heard too.
That said, the tone I get from my SA's stands out above my current stock pick-ups, however I plug and play, and I am looking forward to getting my SD's in other guitars.
Evan Skopp
SDUGF Founder
Re: I've experienced a "Blackout"!
Anyway, the first sets will start shipping before the end of May.
BTW, besides Dino Cazares, we're about to announce a MAJOR new artist who ditched his old active pickups for Blackouts, after 30 minutes of playing them. Watch this space.
Japan? Blackouts are made in Santa Barbara (PCB made in China).
Anyway, the first sets will start shipping before the end of May.
BTW, besides Dino Cazares, we're about to announce a MAJOR new artist who ditched his old active pickups for Blackouts, after 30 minutes of playing them. Watch this space.
pstarove
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Is it ZAKK WYLDE? I know that you won't answer, but only this player can produce a major impact if he goes away from EMGs to you. Then EMG really has to be afraid of you guys! During all his career it was evident that ZAKK's tone=EMG. So a lot of players started playing EMGs because of him, and most of them would likely follow him to Seymour Duncan.
Is it ZAKK WYLDE? I know that you won't answer, but only this player can produce a major impact if he goes away from EMGs to you. Then EMG really has to be afraid of you guys! During all his career it was evident that ZAKK's tone=EMG. So a lot of players started playing EMGs because of him, and most of them would likely follow him to Seymour Duncan.
