Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

[75lespaul]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

This one has a Jazz neck and a TB-4 bridge, which I believe is the JB trembucker, right? I wasn't huge fan of the JB in my Les Paul (replaced with brobucker--WOW!) and now it's sounding really loose in my Epiphone Casino as well. I was going to give it a chance stock and if I didn't like it, hit this forum for suggestions.

However....I think I'm going to pass on this guitar for now. The $1800 is something I finally decided I just don't feel comfortable spending, even if I sell stuff to replace the cash. Check with me in another two hours, and maybe I'll have changed my mind, LOL.

 

[vinterland]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

This one has a Jazz neck and a TB-4 bridge, which I believe is the JB trembucker, right? I wasn't huge fan of the JB in my Les Paul (replaced with brobucker--WOW!) and now it's sounding really loose in my Epiphone Casino as well. I was going to give it a chance stock and if I didn't like it, hit this forum for suggestions.

However....I think I'm going to pass on this guitar for now. The $1800 is something I finally decided I just don't feel comfortable spending, even if I sell stuff to replace the cash. Check with me in another two hours, and maybe I'll have changed my mind, LOL.

Much better deals can be had than 1800 dollars. You can find new usa jacksons in the 1300-1400 dollar range, if you shop.

 

[Rainmaker]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

To cure the problem that Jeff described, maybe you could go with a Mahogany Soloist or King V? I'm gassing for a Mahogany King V

 

[Pierre]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

The thing is, a maple/Alder neck through will sound decent, but not very 'loud' if you see what I mean. My Stagemaster is like this and I prefer the sound I get out of my model 4 (basswood body on bolt on maple/rosewood neck). It's normal for neck throughs, and as Jeff said, they tend to be made more as cutting instruments than a wall of rythm sound.
Depending on your purpose, you may be happy with a DK1. If you want more versatility and bolt ons have the sound you want, that opens up even more options if you don't go with Jacksons.

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

Well, I've been jonesing for a Rhoads body shape for quite awhile. As far as the color, that's what pushed me over the edge and got me thinking about my age, how much longer do I have to really enjoy life and the old "you're gonna be dead for a long time--live it up while you're alive" theory. However, I've got to be smart as well because I'm trying to open a business and I've got a family, so how far can I go?

I'm taking a trip to GC this afternoon with the family and I'm gonna check out an RR1 and RR3. I can live with cheaper model if all I really need to do is swap pickups. I don't plan on using the neck pickup on this guitar anyway (though the thought of the jazz neck is intriguing on the RR1) and I've got a JB to try out in the bridge. If the RR3 isn't up to snuff, I'll hold off for now.

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

Much better deals can be had than 1800 dollars. You can find new usa jacksons in the 1300-1400 dollar range, if you shop.

So far the cheapest one I've seen on the web is $1700 and it's a blem. If you see one in that EDS color, would you PM me? Thanks a million

 

[Pierre]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

There is a WORLD between the RR3 and the RR1. Unless you need a Floyd, you could consider the RR5. The RR3 is bolt on, 2 Duncan Designed pickups and a low profile Floyd. The new 2006 has real Duncans and an updated trem, BUT they're still Japanese factory made bolt on guitars. I totally disagree with Jeff when he says they're **** though. For the money, I believe they are very well made guitars.
The RR 5 is a neck through Rhoads, available in Ivory with pinstripes that look a lot like Randy Rhoads' guitar.

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

There is a WORLD between the RR3 and the RR1. Unless you need a Floyd, you could consider the RR5. The RR3 is bolt on, 2 Duncan Designed pickups and a low profile Floyd. The new 2006 has real Duncans and an updated trem, BUT they're still Japanese factory made bolt on guitars. I totally disagree with Jeff when he says they're **** though. For the money, I believe they are very well made guitars.
The RR 5 is a neck through Rhoads, available in Ivory with pinstripes that look a lot like Randy Rhoads' guitar.

That's why I want to go play them myself. Are the 2006 models out yet? That was some great info, thank you! I would probably be able to deal with the lesser quality--as long as it was still GOOD quality and sound. Like I said earlier, already have the Gibsons and Fenders for outstanding (IMHO) quality and I don't play out, so this guitar is just to scratch an itch.

If my business goes over well, this won't even be an issue--I just get the RR1 and smile all day, but that's a few months away from even starting and about a year before you really know if it's gonna "rock". I think the RR3 will be a nice pit-stop for now. Again, as long as it's not complete garbage.

 

[Pierre]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

I found it was a solid guitar with a decent sound. You can easily find one of the older models second hand for less than 400 dollars and upgrade, or go for the 2006 models. You could get one for low bucks brand new at the right places, though you won't see it advertised for smaller than MAP but you can get some there.

 

[Diego]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

I had an RR3 from a friend for a couple of months, then returned it. It was actually very very decent for it's price, far from **** IMO (Sorry Jeffy :smack: ) The FR wasn't perfect and the pickups we're a bit weak, but it felt very solid. It was good!

Still it doesn't touch the RR1. But I'm not sure if the price difference it's worth it.

 

[vinterland]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

So far the cheapest one I've seen on the web is $1700 and it's a blem. If you see one in that EDS color, would you PM me? Thanks a million

Well thats sorta the thing with jacksons. You either really want a certain color and pay for it or you satisfice. There are many dealer shops who will get in a usa jackson and sell it for 1400 or so but it might not be your color of choice. I guess that's where you have to choose to pay or save some money. The errie dess color tends to go higher than a standard solid color.

Also have you checked Ebay?

 

[JacksonMIA]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

I think some shops are a little too proud of their RR1s on top of that. I played a used one at Guitar Sinner that they wanted $2k for. Sorry, but I'm not going to pay that much for a new one. :smack:

It was a nice guitar, though. Not for playing sitting down, but it had a good feel to it.

 

[vinterland]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

I think some shops are a little too proud of their RR1s on top of that. I played a used one at Guitar Sinner that they wanted $2k for. Sorry, but I'm not going to pay that much for a new one. :smack:

It was a nice guitar, though. Not for playing sitting down, but it had a good feel to it.

I think most shops are too proud of their USA jacksons period. I often see them way overpriced.

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

Here is the one I wanted, but I'm just not going to spend that kind of money on a guitar---yet, lol.

There's someone who has an RR3 in that color as well, but his feedback is only 4 or something like that.

I called guitar center just to see if they had the guitars to try out. They have a used RR1 and the guy has a blue Rhoads that needs work they're "blowing out" for $200, but he didn't know if it was an RR5 or RR3. Is there a visual way I can tell the difference? I've never seen any of these in person.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7393578293&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

 

[JeffB]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

It was actually very very decent for it's price, far from **** IMO (Sorry Jeffy :smack: )

Where did I say they were anything even remotely resembling $hit? :wrf: :eek13: :no:

I just don't like tone of them with the woods they choose to use (stock) for precisely the reason pierre gave. The guitars are absolutely fantastic tho.

:smack:

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

Where did I say they were anything even remotely resembling $hit? :wrf: :eek13: :no:

I just don't like tone of them with the woods they choose to use (stock) for precisely the reason pierre gave. The guitars are absolutely fantastic tho.

:smack:

Actually it was DSS who said they were ****

 

[H8Red442]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

IMO, that ESD swirl is tacky as hell. I'd go classic black and as of late there have been a bunch on eBay. However if you're having a hard time spending the cash take your time and shop ebay for it. Save the cash up and buy it. You'll be much happier. I just bought and very near to new KV2 a month ago on eBay for $1300. It's sweet and I've gushed about it enough. and RR3 will probably just say Jackson on the headstock, I would think an RR5 would have professional after jackson on the headstock. stay away from the RR5. If all your after is the shape it really doesn't matter what model you buy. Trust me though as someone who has owned 5 american jacksons there is a huge difference between the different price levels of these guitars. I've owned at least one from each level. I had a King V Professional way back inthe day. I had a KE3 about 5 years ago and I've had and have American versions of both. There really is no comparison. Theres also no need to spend $1800 on a new one. Take your time and shop around either onthe web or jsut ebay or what have you. I'd say go black or white or some trans color with flame top and go american. You're sure to get one for under $1400 that way, new or used.

And I would totally stay away from any series Kelly. I've had three of those and while they're very comfortable to play sitting down they're very top heavy. So unless you're cool with moving the front strap button to the side of the guitar instead of the back don't waste your time.

 

[JeffB]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

Actually it was DSS who said they were ****

Ahh I see....

My apologies...

 

[75lespaul]

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Well, I just got back.

The RR3 they had needed too much work and I just didn't like the way it felt. I then played a 97 RR1 and the difference was like night and day. The only thing they had in common was the shape. I THEN played a used KV2 and THAT was the best feeling and sounding of the three (the RR1 had Bill Lawrence X or XL-500 pickups in it). That was $1500 USED. The RR1 was $1100. I will hold off for the RR1. The salesman also said that they don't stock the RR1 and it takes over six months to get one. But the price was way too much new. I'll check around and maybe if someone has one on ebay close enough for me to go play, I'll get one then.

 

[metal]

Re: Jackson RR1--is it worth it?

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