Jaguar Puzzle

[Silence Kid]

Please select your character:

Options are - Mexican Road Worn, CIJ, American Vintage, Squier, American Original, Mexican Classic Player, American Professional, and 1965 . (Or cheat and look at the file names)

 

[Chris Pile]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

This is part of Fender's problem. Too many flavors of the same guitar.

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

Coo

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

You forgot one:



The boys in the lab told me that scientifically this one is 50% better than the other ones you have up there, and that doesn't even count the tortoise shell pickguard.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

I wish they used a lower panel curved the right way (obvious they didn't want to create a proprietary piece of metal, a Mustang panel might have been a better fit still.) It looks terribly cramped, between the vibrato being hiked up, upper controls shoved down and the cluster**** that is the location of the pickup selector. I don't have wild picking, but it might not work for others. Real Jaguars are giant beasts that spread all that out.

I mean the Strat hybrid is a novelty guitar for rich people so it's fine. But the concept could be done very effectively with a bit more thought and effort. I'd love to see one hit the stage; sure it sounds great.

As for Jaguar models - I only included "regular" vintage flavored varieties (omitted hardtail/bucker/signature editions.) The American Original is the new AVRI and I think the Classic Player got ditched, so really there are five "vanilla" Jaguar models to choose from with small variations or at different price points. I really do like the Mexican 60's/Lacquer/Road Worn guitars but have an eye out for an AVRI someday to sit next to my MIJ.

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

Looking at the switching/control options, I'd go with the bottom right guitar. Much easier for me to wrap my head around that one.

 

[Jacew]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

Looking at the switching/control options, I'd go with the bottom right guitar. Much easier for me to wrap my head around that one.

Jaguar wiring is actually very simple when you get it. You just have double control circuits for neck pickup and the treble switch.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

I agree Jaguar switches are more simple than people give them credit for (even the pickup switches can be easily operated both at once with a twisting motion.)

But I'm not a heavy user of either the treble switch or rhythm circuit in any case.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

This is part of Fender's problem. Too many flavors of the same guitar.

Is it? Now there’s a Jag at every price point/market/configuration (modern vs classic). Fender players have been asking for more offsets, now they have them.

 

[astrozombie]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

I used to play one infamously for years

I’d lend it to people and they’d knock the switch down and look at me like “there’s no sound”

It was hilarious


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[ItsaBass]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

As best as I can guess (left to right):

American Original (vintage style with mute, but with yellowed pickup covers and switch tip)
Classic Player (specs make it obvious)
???
Road Worn (specs make it obvious)
vintage (wear and tear, faded red, only one missing vibrato arm)
???
American Vintage (whiter p/u covers and vibrato cover than new Am. Orig.)
American Pro (specs make it obvious)

I can't tell the difference between the CIJ and the Squier, because I thought the CIJ had a mute. Then again, if it did have the mute, I wouldn't have been able to tell it apart from the AV.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

I don't know if I could identify a vintage from an AV or AO from pictures alone. I'm impressed you picked up on the cues.

The giveaways on the Squier are the "Duncan Designed" printed pickup covers and generic vibrato vs. the CIJ. The give on the CIJ to me is always the super hard/deep forearm carve at a different angle than the others, & the plates being closer to body edges. CIJs don't have a mute, bought one for mine but don't want to drill to install it. It is obvious I am a nerd.

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

I don't know if I could identify a vintage from an AV or AO from pictures alone. I'm impressed you picked up on the cues.

The giveaways on the Squier are the "Duncan Designed" printed pickup covers and generic vibrato vs. the CIJ. The give on the CIJ to me is always the super hard/deep forearm carve at a different angle than the others, & the plates being closer to body edges. CIJs don't have a mute, bought one for mine but don't want to drill to install it. It is obvious I am a nerd.

Well, firstly, I eliminated the easy ones: Road Worn, Classic Player, and American Professional. Then, I knew without a doubt that the three with mutes had to be AO, AV, and vintage. Once I assumed that, the vintage one was easy to pick out, for the reasons I listed. AO vs AV could have been either/or. The yellowed pickup covers and lighter brown board looked more like an AO to me (unlike the whiter plastics and darker board of my AV '65). But there was no guarantee that the photos were shot under the same conditions and color corrected the same, so that guess could have amounted to nothing.

I had no idea about the sharper contours on the MIJ. I know Japanese Jags were made with a mute at some point. In the early '90's, I was in love with one in a shop by my high school. It's the guitar that first sparked my love of Jaguars. Candy Apple Red with matching head, and definitely had the mute.

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

They made a million MIJ/CIJ variants for every market, so wouldn't surprise me if one of them had a mute. Not many people would add one. Another "give" is very white plastic pickguards/covers (before they age) and sharper split shaft knobs on most models.

Mine is "funny." It's a '96 MIJ CAR matched headstock with a 50th anniv. sticker, and still has brass shielding. It "should" be basswood but is heavier than it should be and the neck pocket grain & reddish wood color look more like alder.

(I also had a later 2000s CIJ that "should" have been alder but was much lighter and had yellowish/grainless wood, and I believe that one to have been basswood even though post-97 that should have been discontinued.)

The MIJ/CIJ also both have 70s style side dots and logos on the neck, despite being "JG-66" models. I've spent close to $300 amortized over fifteen years modding mine (not counting a refret- thing had stupid soft stock frets.) MIJ asking prices are up to where a used AVRI is a much better deal, and AVs are much nicer to hold in your hand.

 

[RorySquier]

Re: Jaguar Puzzle

They sure have many shades of red on them there guitars.



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