Japanese made messed-up production

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TheLivingDead said:
Jap Jappity Jap Jap Jap.

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My God, that is sick


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I think its there for looks much like breasts are on a woman before pregnancy, unless he wired that pickup as a split with the toggle. There I turned this from an irrelevant racist argument to a sexist argument. And reading through this thread further confused the f$%K out of me I still don't know what the OP was on about.
 
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Jessie's ghost said:
^ What's the toggle do?
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I'd imagine it's a kill switch. A have a buddy who always gets 1 pup/killswitch geets. Simplicity is cool! Also, those Kahler non trems are badass. Nice mass, low profile but still adjustable as all hell.
 
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BunnyGuitarShredder said:
I think its there for looks much like breasts are on a woman before pregnancy, unless he wired that pickup as a split with the toggle.
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Can't tell what pup that is, but some of the EMG models are dual-mode pickups with single-coil and full humbucker outputs. But I doubt someone with a guitar like that would be interested in a single-coil sound from the bridge.
 
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Jessie's ghost said:
Can't tell what pup that is, but some of the EMG models are dual-mode pickups with single-coil and full humbucker outputs. But I doubt someone with a guitar like that would be interested in a single-coil sound from the bridge.
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Why is it you were so interested in being offended by the term "jap" earlier in the thread yet now seem completely uninterested, to the point of starting a friendly conversation with anyone that uses it? Whats your game?


To anyone offended by my use of the word "Jap" I apologise, as anyone with any sense already noticed, it was not a racist comment.

I really like how someone (I suspect a troll) started a thread with no other intent than to to confuse people and he ended up with a 5 page thread with a discussion about racism that seems to have ended in the man calling "racism" conveniently forgetting his own principles. :lol:
 
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Varg said:
Why is it you were so interested in being offended by the term "jap" earlier in the thread yet now seem completely uninterested, to the point of starting a friendly conversation with anyone that uses it? Whats your game?


To anyone offended by my use of the word "Jap" I apologise, as anyone with any sense already noticed, it was not a racist comment.

I really like how someone (I suspect a troll) started a thread with no other intent than to to confuse people and he ended up with a 5 page thread with a discussion about racism that seems to have ended in the man calling "racism" conveniently forgetting his own principles. :lol:
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I haven't forgotten my principles. The term still offends me. But now I see where most of you guys are coming from, and I see that I'm probably being too sensitive for the situation. I'm glad we talked about it, but I'm ready to move on.
 
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Reboot. Back to the OP.

samu said:
I'm going to write up a strange thing. Kinda rant, so please excuse me, will ya?

I'm a Finn, a citizen of a nordic metal nation. The age is 43. MSc, heavy machine industy, materials research, "plankton level" issues where problem solving is...

I'm ex-shredder (well..), short-haired nowadays. I have proper scars.


Well, To the point:

As a J-guitar fan (not a collector but a sexy user trader):

Japanese production indeed used the highest possible quality of methods and machinery to machine the highest quality of the "plainest wood ever", to realize their thing. Mahogany, sugar maple and basswood. Prime woodstuff. All in the name of both quality and practicality.

They did a precision job always, and the precision of the quality was literally unmatched (for example those Jap made unofficial Fenders).

However they screwed up:

Something essential about the difference of precision an accuracy.

You get me? Hitting always the same hole but not hitting the middle of the target eventually failed them (I wonder if this is why 80s-90s era hair metal shredders left those guitars, probably because of pure boredom).

Well, there was probably more in details, however plain precision just was not enough. Like said, the Public Primary-User Charvel/Jackson SuperStrat Shredder era lasted only a few funny years ending up with a dinosaur death: Suddenly everyone switched to something else.

I blame Jackson and Charvel (yes, separately) for being way too arrogant in their designs, and I Seriously blame the Chu Shin Gakki factory for not suggesting hard enough their own point of view (they probably were simply unable to do so, they were (and still are) japanese). Whatever is th reason, I just hate them both equally, only because of their single-minded one-eyeness.

Regardless, after 20 years or so, those Charvel/Jacksons are carrying their posture without a fling. I love Jap Charvels and Jacksons because of their precision, only because that is indeed the only thing left of them. It is all solid, even today.

Forgive me ranting, I just had to do so.

Samu
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samu said:
Like said, the Public Primary-User Charvel/Jackson SuperStrat Shredder era lasted only a few funny years ending up with a dinosaur death: Suddenly everyone switched to something else.

I blame Jackson and Charvel (yes, separately) for being way too arrogant in their designs, and I Seriously blame the Chu Shin Gakki factory for not suggesting hard enough their own point of view (they probably were simply unable to do so, they were (and still are) japanese). Whatever is th reason, I just hate them both equally, only because of their single-minded one-eyeness.

Regardless, after 20 years or so, those Charvel/Jacksons are carrying their posture without a fling. I love Jap Charvels and Jacksons because of their precision, only because that is indeed the only thing left of them. It is all solid, even today.

Forgive me ranting, I just had to do so.

Samu
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Ok, so this appears to be the focus of the opening post. I'm not reading 5 pages to get to the point, but if it hasn't been mentioned in those 5 pages, here's the deal:

Back in 1990 when the Japan-made Jackson Professional series was started, they were made as good as the USA production models which started the same year. I know we have a lot of people these days comparing Agiles and ESPees to Gibsons and saying how identical they are and blah blah, but one need only pick up a USA Soloist and a Soloist Pro, both from 1990, and compare them directly. They were identical.

For 4 years the Pros outsold the USA models. Jackson almost went under because of it, so they forced the Chu Shin Gakki plant to build them not-as-good.
It was a contract decision. CSG complied.
Unfortunately too many people misinterpret this as a decline in Japanese pride and quality of work.
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
For 4 years the Pros outsold the USA models. Jackson almost went under because of it, so they forced the Chu Shin Gakki plant to build them not-as-good.
It was a contract decision. CSG complied.
Unfortunately too many people misinterpret this as a decline in Japanese pride and quality of work.
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From what I understand, many of the changes are simply choices in features and materials. Was there anything along the lines of, "Do sloppier fretwork," or "Put the bridges in the wrong place."?
 
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Jessie's ghost said:
From what I understand, many of the changes are simply choices in features and materials. Was there anything along the lines of, "Do sloppier fretwork," or "Put the bridges in the wrong place."?
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That cracked me up!!!
 
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Jessie's ghost said:
Is that Kahler a fixed bridge?
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Yeah its one of the fixed ones.

*edit* bah i see others have answered thats what i get for not refreshing my browswer. But yeah i love the fixed kahler bridges being able to set each strings spacing height and intonation is killer the floyd like fine tuners are just the icing on the cake too.
 
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Jessie's ghost said:
From what I understand, many of the changes are simply choices in features and materials. Was there anything along the lines of, "Do sloppier fretwork," or "Put the bridges in the wrong place."?
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No, those orders were given to the India facility.
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
No, those orders were given to the India facility.
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:laugh2::beerchug:

Actually the Indians did relatively well, but the koreans really muffed it up on the second and further years of the shotrt lived Performer series ;)
 
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Are those Performers bad? I always see them on ebay with people asking the same kinda money as DK2s go for.
 
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Dunno, I mean, about 5 or so years later and I STILL regret not snatching a Dinky Pro in Eerie Des Swirl that I played a couple of times in a now-closed guitar shop.

At the time Jackson was upgrading their models with real Duncans and slightly different specs and she was an earlier model and I stupidly waited for the newer ones to arrive. Only explanation I can give is I didn't fully understand the validity of the 2nd post in my sig...
 
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yeah my King V is from India and its actually really nice nothing sloppy or half assed about it. Tight neck pocket, trem is properly aligned, the electronics actually are decent but I am gonna put better in. I wont go near korean guitars from recent years, maybe the 80s-90s like my Memphis which was great
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
here's the deal:

For 4 years the Pros outsold the USA models. Jackson almost went under because of it, so they forced the Chu Shin Gakki plant to build them not-as-good.
It was a contract decision. CSG complied.
Unfortunately too many people misinterpret this as a decline in Japanese pride and quality of work.
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This, is this finally a piece of first-hand information?

Samu
 
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