Jazz Neck + Pearly Gates bridge?

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If he tells us now, they won't be curve balls, so I understand him holding his cards close to his chest. This is on a need-to-know-basis.

I'm sorry, was I supposed to list every piece of gear I've ever used and what I thought about each of them? I only shared what I thought was relevant so as not to waste anyone's time.
 
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Every piece of gear, gain on 3, pedals can't handle higher than very low output bridge pickups.

Do you always exaggerate like this?

What is a waste of time is not telling us that you don't use your bridge pickup for cleans.

So you want prevalent mids and bass in the bridge and you have a dark guitar (which only helps the situation). Also paranoid about level.

PGb seems like a good choice. Screamin' Demon with the stock polished A5 magnet would be too.
 
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Every piece of gear, gain on 3, pedals can't handle higher than very low output bridge pickups.

Do you always exaggerate like this?

What is a waste of time is not telling us that you don't use your bridge pickup for cleans.

So you want prevalent mids and bass in the bridge and you have a dark guitar (which only helps the situation). Also paranoid about level.

PGb seems like a good choice. Screamin' Demon with the stock polished A5 magnet would be too.

Do you always come off so condescending?

I'm not exaggerating. I do have the gain on 3 when using my Samick with the fat switch on the amp or when using my EMG 81 equipped ESP. I never said pedals couldn't handle the higher output, I have no idea how you managed to interpret what I said like that. If you have a drive pedal and you hit it with a hotter signal it drives more. How is that hard to understand?

Why on Earth does it matter whether or not I use my bridge pickup for cleans? I never asked for a bridge pickup for cleans. I said my pickups were darker and hotter than I wanted them to be, and was looking for pickups that are less dark and less hot. Why do you need any more information than that?

I'm an open book but if you want more information than I've given I need to know what you want to know. If I don't think it's relevant to the discussion I'm not going to bother sharing it.
 
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There's a big difference between measuring voltage from a pickup and determining its resonant peak. But yeah, the level data is about as reliable as the BMT information.

I don't understand why SD wouldn't use modern test equipment when developing and manufacturing products. But hey I'm just an EE with experience in product development and manufacturing. WTF do I know?

They know, they test, they just don't really publish what all they know.
 
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I want low output pickups so that they don't drive [...] the input stages of pedals as hard.

Do you always come off so condescending?
Hmm...
It's not hard to understand...
Whatever, man.

I'm an open book but if you want more information than I've given I need to know what you want to know. If I don't think it's relevant to the discussion I'm not going to bother sharing it.
Best of luck to you.
 
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They know, they test, they just don't really publish what all they know.
I'm sure they don't make up the resonant peak numbers like they do BMT and (possibly) output level. Resonant peak data was the only reason I posted that link. In some cases they are specified down to the 10s of Hz.

SHPG-1
Pearly Gates
Neck: 7.5 KHz
Bridge: 6.5 KHz

How the bridge model is magically brighter than the neck model is anyone's guess.
 
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Re: Jazz Neck + Pearly Gates bridge?

I'm sure they don't make up the resonant peak numbers like they do BMT and (possibly) output level. Resonant peak data was the only reason I posted that link. In some cases they are specified down to the 10s of Hz.

SHPG-1
Pearly Gates
Neck: 7.5 KHz
Bridge: 6.5 KHz

How the bridge model is magically brighter than the neck model is anyone's guess.

I might not say brighter, but it is surprisingly bright for an A2 hot wind. Could be the position on the guitar relative to the strings counteracts the peak a bit? (Beyond my technical knowledge.).

My understanding (from comments made by other winders here) is there are things you can do, like load up the wire closer to the top or bottom of the bobbin rather than evenly distribute it that can affect the frequency response. I can believe it because spec-wise on paper a Distortion and a Black Winter should be about the same pickup, but they sound nothing alike. But thats hearsay from me, getting outside of my direct experience or knowledge.
 
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I'm not knowledgeable in the black art of winding, either. Seymour Duncan offerings pretty well demonstrate the dramatic differences that can be achieved simply through the way coils are wound.
 
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Insulted 2 of the nicest guys on this forum. Maybe check DiMarzio
 
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OP not so nice. I appreciate all I have learned from you. Happy New Year
 
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I wound up going with a set of Dimarzio 36th anniversaries. They're good enough. Cheap too, which is always a plus.
 
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