JB muddy?

JB muddy?


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UberMetalDood

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I tried a JB in a Jackson, strat and now in my Musicman Axis and it's a nice pickup which I like. It has character which is what I like most about it. However I have started to notice that it sounds muddy compared to other pickups I use. It's not necessarily muddy in a bad way. It's muddy kind of in the same way the 57 Classics are in my Les Paul. Is there a way to de-mud the JB?
 
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I changed the screws under the E,A,D strings to hex poles and that tightened it up for chugging types of riffs. Left the screws under the others so leads still had that roundness to them. Seems to work pretty well.
 
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I had a custom 5 in a basswood strat and then switched to the JB and I find it to be a good bit more articulate.
 
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I had a custom 5 in a basswood strat and then switched to the JB and I find it to be a good bit more articulate.

I switched my JB out for a Dimarzio Norton because the two pickups are very similar. I noticed that even though the Norton has more mids overall than the JB, the JB seems to clean up a little if I scoop some of the mids out. It still seems a bit muddy. I'm starting to prefer the Full Shred now as far as Seymour Duncan pickups are concerned.
 
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I switched my JB out for a Dimarzio Norton because the two pickups are very similar. I noticed that even though the Norton has more mids overall than the JB, the JB seems to clean up a little if I scoop some of the mids out. It still seems a bit muddy. I'm starting to prefer the Full Shred now as far as Seymour Duncan pickups are concerned.

At first I thought the JB was a little strident and rough sounding. I had back off the pickup height a lil from where I had the C5 but when I did I got the right amount of push and note separation. Dunno, I also back off the gain a little when I play my JB guitar. That thing makes my tweaker go nuts quite a bit faster than my other guitars.

I'd like to try a full shred. I quite liked the dimarzio D-Activator for it's tightness and what felt like medium output.
 
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Cut the screws off flush with the baseplate and radius the poles to match the curvature of the neck/bridge.
 
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Muddy is the last word I'd use to describe the JB in my SG. I was playing my 498T equipped Firebird the other day and when I plugged my SG in it was obviously much better defined and articulate.
 
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Ive never thought of the JB as muddy. A little loose yes but not really muddy. But thats probably just my ears
 
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I heard a few bands that use the jb and before i knew they did i thought they were using EMG's thats how tight and clear they get the jb to sound. listen to lamb of gods ashes of the wake or anything by arch enemy who uses nothing but the jb.
 
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I think it's the guitar, I keep hearing that JB reacts differently in different guitars. In my all mahagony/maple neck/rosewood fretboard SG-copy, it sounds like pure rock, electrified to 11.

But I will concede the bass is loose and can't really chug-chug all day like a ceramic pup. But that is probably combination of both the guitar and JB.

I raised the pole pieces on the bass side and lowered the pup a bit overall, that really made all the difference in the world, articulate... slices through like a katana.
 
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Muddy is just about the last word I would have chosen to describe my JB. Bear in mind that mine is in a Hamer Archtop Studio (mahogany/maple) and that my musical tastes are more in the area of classic rock and blues. YMMV.
 
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What effect will that have?

It will tighten up the bass, mostly. Rounding the screw heights to match the neck radius will keep things even across all the strings. Just remember to adjust the screw height THEN cut the screws ;)

I've stopped replacing pickups in my Epi LP Custom ZW (solid mahogany, maple neck and fretboard). The JB is exactly what I need for what I play. The guitar is a little woody sounding. The bass and highs are rounded off a little. The JB's EQ works really well in this guitar. I wouldn't call it articulate, but that wasn't what I was after. It's an awesome rock pickup, for sure.

We have one song that I really liked playing before, but now I can't wait for it at every practice. I chug a palm-muted F# power chord during part of the verse and it's a thunderous wall of awesome. It makes me smile every time.

At the beginning of that same song there's a part where I need some note separation as it's some single note picking with the previous ones ringing out. However, I don't change the gain or adjust the volume knob (10) and it sounds clear enough - each note is defined.

This is running through a Digitech 1101, AC30 patch straight into monitor and the FOH mixer. I just played my first gig this weekend with it and it was stellar.

But, my clarity could be another's muddy. UberMetalDood, I think you hit the nail on the head in your first post where you mentioned muddy like a Classic 57, which some people absolutely love. It depends on what you are expecting from the pickup and what YOU define as articulate/muddy.

I found the FullShred to be very articulate, but I couldn't gel with the bridge pickup. I can picture it being perfect for a different style of playing/music. Just not for what I do atm. OTOH, the FS neck is near the top of my list for neck pickups, but I digress.

In my Squier VM Telecasters (agathis, maple) the JB was just ok, not as defined or dynamic as it was in my previous and current Epi LPs, and not as articulate as other pickups I've tried in those. Those guitars are heavier on the base side, so that might be why. In my basswood Ibanez it was bright and annoying.
 
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disconnect the tone pot

 
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bottom line is its articulation is in direct relation to your amp!
marty friedmans JB lead tones are puuuuuuuuurfect!
JB with my DSL sounded sharp/articulate because of the amp.
i bet in a peavey ultra 60 watt its muddy.
 
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disconnect the tone pot

Definately! Or rewire the tone control for just the neck pickup.
With the JB it tightens up the bass, smoothes out the mids and provides some serious bite without being harsh.
 
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The JB Rocks in my Les Paul, it cuts through the mix with ease and great with solo's I use it playing classic Rock to heavy Hard Rock!
 
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disconnect the tone pot


yeah i agree, btw the jake uses the alan holdsworth duncan not the jb
 
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