JB vs 498T

[blueman335]

Re: JB vs 498T

Remember that if you have tried the 498T in a Gibson production guitar, chances are that it has 300k volume pots in it. Are they that dark with 500k pots?. I have one in an SG Std., and have yet to upgrade to 500k volume pots, which most guys say brings out a better sound in both the 490 neck and 498 bridge sounds.

490R's absolutely need 500k's to get more life out of them, especially if paired with a 498T. It's a matter of opinion whether 498T's 'sound better' with 500K's. There's no universal consensus. I don't think they do; they're a very bright, thin PU and to me that needs to be tamed with 250K's. I have a 498T/490R pair in an SG; the 490R has an A5 and 500K's, the 498T has an UOA5 and 250K's. It's my best-sounding, heaviest-sounding SG. Both the neck and bridge balance very well tone-wise, which is not the case when they have the stock magnets (bright bridge-dark neck, and many people complain about that and replace them).

 

[jmcorey]

Re: JB vs 498T

490R's absolutely need 500k's to get more life out of them, especially if paired with a 498T. It's a matter of opinion whether 498T's 'sound better' with 500K's. There's no universal consensus. I don't think they do; they're a very bright, thin PU and to me that needs to be tamed with 250K's. I have a 498T/490R pair in an SG; the 490R has an A5 and 500K's, the 498T has an UOA5 and 250K's. It's my best-sounding, heaviest-sounding SG. Both the neck and bridge balance very well tone-wise, which is not the case when they have the stock magnets (bright bridge-dark neck, and many people complain about that and replace them).

Blueman,

I am about to put a 490/498 into a double HB superstrat. It has 250k pots. I've read that you think the 490R could use a magnet transplant to A5. Would this improve the situation enough to help the problem without requiring changing the tone pot to 500k? The guitar only has 1 vol and 1 tone.

Thanks

 

[always SD]

Re: JB vs 498T

IMO 498t is a fatter pickup and jb more modern but the best thing will be to test them in a les paul or sg

 

[blueman335]

Re: JB vs 498T

5 year old thread bumps for no good reason.

Explain how someone asking the same questions in a new thread is preferable? When someone bumps an old thread, it gives background, along with responses, so everything doesn't have to be rehashed all over again. Anyone who's been here a while knows that the vast majority of new threads are a repeat of something that's discussed numerous times in the past. Very little is actually a brand new topic.

 

[blueman335]

Re: JB vs 498T

Blueman,

I am about to put a 490/498 into a double HB superstrat. It has 250k pots. I've read that you think the 490R could use a magnet transplant to A5. Would this improve the situation enough to help the problem without requiring changing the tone pot to 500k? The guitar only has 1 vol and 1 tone.

Thanks

Absolutely. 490R's have much more treble, clarity, and definition with an A5. So much so that I don't understand why Gibson still uses A2's in them.

 

[SFW]

Re: JB vs 498T

This thread is from 2009. Not sure why it's back...?

 

[blueman335]

Re: JB vs 498T

This thread is from 2009. Not sure why it's back...?

I know! Let's start new threads with the same topics as dozens of old ones, and they'll be sooo much better because they're new!

 

[SFW]

Re: JB vs 498T

I know! Let's start new threads with the same topics as dozens of old ones, and they'll be sooo much better because they're new!

I'm not sure what your problem is, but I fail to see what you have added to this discussion. You seem to enjoy being antagonistic in a lot of the threads that I participate in. I'm not sure what you are attempting to accomplish with your attitude...?

 

[LtKojak]

Re: JB vs 498T

This thread is from 2009. Not sure why it's back...?

It's because of a newbie that goes with the handle of "always sd".

And as I'm positive English is not his mother language, we'll be seeing a lot of necrothreading in the future, plus a lot of bad advice.

Oh, well. We all have been newbies at one point. Let's hope he'll develop his language skills to comprehend the use and style of the SDGUF rather quickly!

 

[jmcorey]

Re: JB vs 498T

I'm not sure what your problem is, but I fail to see what you have added to this discussion. You seem to enjoy being antagonistic in a lot of the threads that I participate in. I'm not sure what you are attempting to accomplish with your attitude...?

A lot of people had been complaining about "always sd" bringing up new threads. Blueman was taking the contrary point, asking why is it so bad, since many questions get recycled anyway, and the old threads that the newbie is bringing up are essentially going to get asked in the next week or two in "new" posts. I think it was also his way of giving newbie a break.

In my experience, blueman has been one of the most patient guys on this forum, answering the same question over and over. I really appreciate his perspective and input. He has at least 10 positive/helpful comments to every negative one. And most of the negative ones, if not all, have been either neutral or helpful in their own way.

SFW, I also really appreciate your posts and have learned a lot from you, too.

 

[astrozombie]

JB vs 498T

Zombified.

I've had all the models listed here. This is my order
For the Gibson pickups:

1-DF
2-500t
3-guitar fetish
4-hello kitty guitar
5-498t

All kidding aside it varies on the guitar. SG standard sounded great with 498.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[always SD]

Re: JB vs 498T

in fact, i would like to know if a 16k in bridge is important or not in the bridge of les paul

i have played with & 498t (or 490) with a sg = not much trebles but a very warm tone (=bass, MIDS)

i played with another guitar: a lot of outpout and more trebles so, less bluesy tone

so, jb seems not a blues pickup

i wanted a pickup for blues but for modern music and sustain too
harmonics

 

[blueman335]

Re: JB vs 498T

in fact, i would like to know if a 16k in bridge is important or not in the bridge of les paul

i have played with & 498t (or 490) with a sg = not much trebles but a very warm tone (=bass, MIDS)

i played with another guitar: a lot of outpout and more trebles so, less bluesy tone

so, jb seems not a blues pickup

i wanted a pickup for blues but for modern music and sustain too
harmonics

Neither one is a blues PU, although the 498T is closer to it. JB's are great for '80's hair metal.

Many of the best-sounding LP's have PAF's, which are around 8.5K in the bridge (about half of a JB). You don't 'need' high out bridge PU's, especially if you're playing blues.

 

[always SD]

Re: JB vs 498T

but i'm used to wait for feedback, note at the octave (flying i an blue dream, Satriani' song)
i like sustain for my lp with floyd
so i thought about a JB
or dirty fingers
and i can't play loud at home

yes, LP have not bit output PU except Peter Frampton model (with 500t)

i don't play blues all time
i'm like gary moore: mix between shred, blues, heavy metal, sustain, feedback, floyd rose (in the 80's)

 

[blueman335]

Re: JB vs 498T

I'm not sure what your problem is, but I fail to see what you have added to this discussion.

The problem is guys that bring up old threads, especially new guys here, feel intimidated by other members who feel compelled to moan and groan about old threads being revived. We tell them to use the search engine, and when they want to extend the conversation on it, they don't like to be hassled. Give them a break.

 

[jmcorey]

Re: JB vs 498T

If you want to know how they compare in a strat here is a great demo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGHJlSJOmM8