jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

[BlueGuitar]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

... The thing that was driving me nuts was that if you lift the neck tone switch, both pups lose their ground. It took me forever to realize that they actually wanted both pups full-on, in-series, with one out-of-phase. Can't imagine what that sounds like. :eek13:

PRS was using two humbuckers in-series out-of-phase with some of their rotary switch guitars, and I think it sounds great! Being wired in series, the out-of-phase linkage isn't so thin and whiny, and being out-of-phase, the series linkage isn't so darned thick and muddy. The best of both bananas! :banana:

As for me I'd stick with the Schector Superock wiring harness, because when I wired it up there were no dead positions. Once you put the two pickups in series by pulling out the rhythm volume control, you can split the coils and/or invert the phase:

http://www.blueguitar.org/new/schem/_gtr/superock_harness.pdf

I'd have to say that Gibson screwed up when they stole this idea from Schector (... or did Schector perfect the idea after stealing it from Gibson? I dunno!)

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

I just wanted to say

a) great wiring scheme - if you aren't great with wiring - get it done by a PRO. Mine looks soooo clean and simple bc it was done right, and the layout for mine is killer. Eric's Guitars in LA

b) THE OUT OF PHASE SOUND is very much the Peter Green tone. Also, it can cut thru, as well it can be like an AM Radio. It's really like having a phase pedal in your guitar without the rate control. You get different tones based on the volume levels you set between the neck and bridge, and whether or not you have the coils split.

 

[Rock Disciple]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

Thanks for the help!

 

[millenofx77]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

I just wanted to say

a) great wiring scheme - if you aren't great with wiring - get it done by a PRO. Mine looks soooo clean and simple bc it was done right, and the layout for mine is killer. Eric's Guitars in LA

b) THE OUT OF PHASE SOUND is very much the Peter Green tone. Also, it can cut thru, as well it can be like an AM Radio. It's really like having a phase pedal in your guitar without the rate control. You get different tones based on the volume levels you set between the neck and bridge, and whether or not you have the coils split.

you also have the problem of dead poistion when neck tone is pull?

 

[Antosimoni]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

hi to every1 (1st post here :22: I'm a lespaulist from Italy),

could someone please post a photo to where the toggle switch has to be positioned??? I have this switch but I dont know where to put it :8: !!thanks!!

I've also another question (sorry again if I bother) : the right schematic is the one of this thread : ArtieToo ???? am I right ?? ,my english is not good as you can see and I want to be sure that I'm modifyin' my lespaul with the right one...

thanks to you all... any help will be greatly appreciated... :bigthumb:

 

[Artie]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

I've also another question (sorry again if I bother) : the right schematic is the one of this thread : ArtieToo ???? am I right ?? ,my english is not good as you can see and I want to be sure that I'm modifyin' my lespaul with the right one...

Yes, thats the correct diagram. I'm not sure what you mean by "the toggle switch". All the controls are normal LP controls, just that the pots are push-pull pots. (Switch on the bottom.)

And, welcome to the forum.

 

[Antosimoni]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

Yes, thats the correct diagram. I'm not sure what you mean by "the toggle switch". All the controls are normal LP controls, just that the pots are push-pull pots. (Switch on the bottom.)

And, welcome to the forum.

thanksalot!!!!
...for the switch : i was lookin at guitarelectronics diagram that have additional switches... now no prob.. yours is perfect!! thanks again

now i've the problem to make 4-wire my SD Antiquity does someone has any clue??? can i use your diagram Artie with a normal wired pickup??
please help me (again, sorry i'm the baby of the forum)

 

[Artie]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

Unfortunately, you must have 4-wire pickups to use the JP wiring. You could convert a 2-wire to a 4-wire, but its tricky. Not something I'd attempt if your aren't experienced in soldering and wiring. You could easily destroy an expensive pickup.

 

[Robert S.]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

Actually you can get by with 3 conductor wiring and a seperate ground for the chassis. Adding a split lead isnt as hard as adding 4 conductor wiring but it's in the same ballpark. Its definately easier to purchase 4 conductor pickups than it is to convert them for most people.

As far as the "dead spot" goes, there is probably no way to wire around it but that shouldn't worry you so much. The series switch (neck tone pot) is meant to connect the bridge and neck pickups in series. You have to have both pickups in the circuit for that to work. It doesn't make sense that a switch that connects both pickups together would funtion properly if both pickups are not "on".

Back in the old days, xmas tree lights were series wired and if one bulb went out the whole string went out. Same with the series wiring of pickups. It you break the signal path by removing the bridge pickup with the the 3 way switch, the guitar goes dead.

If you only use the series switch in the center position as it was intended, you'll have no dead spot.

 

[citizen]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

And This for my Gibbo

Hi There OldSlowhand

I'm trying to install Jimmy Page wiring and found your diagram above. I've already tried to install a diagram by RobertS and Artietoo from this forum but couldn't get it to work. I'm sort of half way there with yours - I've got the neck pickup working fine but can't for the life of me get anything out of the bridge pup. I've checked and double checked all conections from pickups, 3 way, jack socket and all grounds but still no joy. I've been trying to trace the signal coming from the bridge pup starting at the black wire which I gather is hot, not with much joy.

Did you have much bother getting this up and running or would you have any other advice?

Thanks

Kieran

 

[Oldslowhand]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

No it worked ! look for a bad solder joint.
If you are using Saymour Duncan pups this may be a little clearer
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=jp_style

 

[eddievanhalen1000]

Re: jimmy page wiring: photo and explanation

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