JTM45 still practical ?
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STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
Glad you like my post quote....It's all true! ;o) Great tone...Great guy!
Glad you like my post quote....It's all true! ;o) Great tone...Great guy!
Lazarus1140
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Re: JTM45 still practical ?
Is pissing matches worse than kidney stones?
Is pissing matches worse than kidney stones?
Kam
Shaftologist
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
I don't wanna put words in his mouth, but I thought the 'SD' in his post was referring to you...
I don't wanna put words in his mouth, but I thought the 'SD' in his post was referring to you...
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
TGWIF and STRATDELUXER highlight 2 variations of getting your tone. For Christian, it's all about the amp breakup, so a JTM45 would be too much. It would be very loud if used in that application.
John prefers a cleaner set amp as a base for tone colouring via pedals (incidently, the way I use my JTM45). Therefore he's able to set the amp at a lower volume setting, keeping things clean and dirtying up from his pedalboard.
I have tended to work from a clean platform over recent years, rather than the amps dirt, so my JTM45 has been perfect for me. A beautifully rounded clean tone, that I totally butcher with a Blackstar pedal and my club-fisted noodlings!
TGWIF and STRATDELUXER highlight 2 variations of getting your tone. For Christian, it's all about the amp breakup, so a JTM45 would be too much. It would be very loud if used in that application.
John prefers a cleaner set amp as a base for tone colouring via pedals (incidently, the way I use my JTM45). Therefore he's able to set the amp at a lower volume setting, keeping things clean and dirtying up from his pedalboard.
I have tended to work from a clean platform over recent years, rather than the amps dirt, so my JTM45 has been perfect for me. A beautifully rounded clean tone, that I totally butcher with a Blackstar pedal and my club-fisted noodlings!
Gypsyblue
New member
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
Different philosophies, different tones and probably much different music probably account for the difference of opinion. I can't see a leather and stud clad heavy metal guy doing gigs with a Deluxe Reverb. Wrong image.
My drummer just sat in with a friend's band and told me all about it. He said the guitarist had just purchased a new amp - some kind of 100 watt Dumble clone.
The guy could not turn the amp up loud enough to get any output tube overdrive so all of his overdrive seemed to be coming from his pedals.
Ironic. A guy spends a bundle for the ultimate in pure tube tone and then can't turn the amp up so he gets all of his distortion from solid state pedals.
That's just weird.
Different philosophies, different tones and probably much different music probably account for the difference of opinion. I can't see a leather and stud clad heavy metal guy doing gigs with a Deluxe Reverb. Wrong image.
My drummer just sat in with a friend's band and told me all about it. He said the guitarist had just purchased a new amp - some kind of 100 watt Dumble clone.
The guy could not turn the amp up loud enough to get any output tube overdrive so all of his overdrive seemed to be coming from his pedals.
Ironic. A guy spends a bundle for the ultimate in pure tube tone and then can't turn the amp up so he gets all of his distortion from solid state pedals.
That's just weird.
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Simon_F
Super Moderator
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
And then there is the third way - master volume amps. Crusty calls them a compromise and I understand where he's coming from, but it's a compromise I like. For most gigs my MV Marshalls are turned up enough for the power stage to be adding it's magic, but even when they're not I prefer the Marshall pre-amp dirt to using pedals for the music I play.
And then there is the fourth way - attenuators.
We guitarists of today are lucky boys having so many toys to choose from.
I'm with Stevie on the club-fisted noodling though.
And John and Christian should get a room!
TGWIF and STRATDELUXER highlight 2 variations of getting your tone. For Christian, it's all about the amp breakup, so a JTM45 would be too much. It would be very loud if used in that application.
John prefers a cleaner set amp as a base for tone colouring via pedals (incidently, the way I use my JTM45). Therefore he's able to set the amp at a lower volume setting, keeping things clean and dirtying up from his pedalboard.
I have tended to work from a clean platform over recent years, rather than the amps dirt, so my JTM45 has been perfect for me. A beautifully rounded clean tone, that I totally butcher with a Blackstar pedal and my club-fisted noodlings!
And then there is the third way - master volume amps. Crusty calls them a compromise and I understand where he's coming from, but it's a compromise I like. For most gigs my MV Marshalls are turned up enough for the power stage to be adding it's magic, but even when they're not I prefer the Marshall pre-amp dirt to using pedals for the music I play.
And then there is the fourth way - attenuators.
We guitarists of today are lucky boys having so many toys to choose from.
I'm with Stevie on the club-fisted noodling though.
And John and Christian should get a room!
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
Nice comment buddy! ;o) It's funny,I've tryed both an attenuator and the PI master volume with my Marshall head and never cared for it...I still find I can get the different tones and versatility using the pedals that fit our band's songs/styles....
Nice comment buddy! ;o) It's funny,I've tryed both an attenuator and the PI master volume with my Marshall head and never cared for it...I still find I can get the different tones and versatility using the pedals that fit our band's songs/styles....
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
I'm really liking the Blackstar 20 watt head and I think I'm kinda leaning in that direction....I really only use a bit of delay and a verbzilla with a setting that gives me a bigger/ambient sound...I can run these into the effects loop..
TGWIF and STRATDELUXER highlight 2 variations of getting your tone. For Christian, it's all about the amp breakup, so a JTM45 would be too much. It would be very loud if used in that application.
John prefers a cleaner set amp as a base for tone colouring via pedals (incidently, the way I use my JTM45). Therefore he's able to set the amp at a lower volume setting, keeping things clean and dirtying up from his pedalboard.
I have tended to work from a clean platform over recent years, rather than the amps dirt, so my JTM45 has been perfect for me. A beautifully rounded clean tone, that I totally butcher with a Blackstar pedal and my club-fisted noodlings!
I'm really liking the Blackstar 20 watt head and I think I'm kinda leaning in that direction....I really only use a bit of delay and a verbzilla with a setting that gives me a bigger/ambient sound...I can run these into the effects loop..
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
SirJackdeFuzz
New member
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
. . . we live in sad times !
Where are the days when 100W was barely enough !???
. . . we live in sad times !
Where are the days when 100W was barely enough !???
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
With all the great P.A. stuff available,guess alot of us don't need 100 watts and 2 stacks behind us! Sure looks cool though! ;o)
. . . we live in sad times !
Where are the days when 100W was barely enough !???
With all the great P.A. stuff available,guess alot of us don't need 100 watts and 2 stacks behind us! Sure looks cool though! ;o)
SirJackdeFuzz
New member
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
It sure does !
Just ask Amber of Jucifer (...every cab is pluged in and moving air), and Wata !
It sure does !
Just ask Amber of Jucifer (...every cab is pluged in and moving air), and Wata !
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
All I can say is wow! How much of that backline is actually for sound though and not show?
It sure does !
Just ask Amber of Jucifer (...every cab is pluged in and moving air), and Wata !
All I can say is wow! How much of that backline is actually for sound though and not show?
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
Thanks for that...Alot of really great people on the forums!
Thanks for that...Alot of really great people on the forums!
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: JTM45 still practical ?
Haha, I don't feel worthy of mention, I'm actually a drummer.
That said, I know I'm a neanderthal, but I don't think a JTM45 would carry over my drumming, seriously, ask Drew if he ever comes around again.
I practice at home with a little 5w amp and use pedals, sounds OK, but I wouldn't want to record anything with it (I really need a decent practice/home recording amp). For the type of gigs I would be playing (if I were playing guitar in a band) I might feel just adequate with my Butcher full stack or my Boogie rig (Mark III with a 4x12 and a 2x12). I practice with either at pretty much show volume when I'm at the space. The Mig60 and DC-5 I used to have were neither loud enough, that's why I don't have them anymore.
We're all just doing such different things, so it's not so easy to say whether a JTM45 would work for you or not. To me it would be a practice/special sound amp, like why I want a tweed deluxe. To some doing blues gigs, or wedding gigs, or something else, volume really could be an issue.
Haha, I don't feel worthy of mention, I'm actually a drummer.
That said, I know I'm a neanderthal, but I don't think a JTM45 would carry over my drumming, seriously, ask Drew if he ever comes around again.
I practice at home with a little 5w amp and use pedals, sounds OK, but I wouldn't want to record anything with it (I really need a decent practice/home recording amp). For the type of gigs I would be playing (if I were playing guitar in a band) I might feel just adequate with my Butcher full stack or my Boogie rig (Mark III with a 4x12 and a 2x12). I practice with either at pretty much show volume when I'm at the space. The Mig60 and DC-5 I used to have were neither loud enough, that's why I don't have them anymore.
We're all just doing such different things, so it's not so easy to say whether a JTM45 would work for you or not. To me it would be a practice/special sound amp, like why I want a tweed deluxe. To some doing blues gigs, or wedding gigs, or something else, volume really could be an issue.
