Jupiter - First Contact! (Warning: 6-string Content)

I’m guessing that an oversized slug could work. Isn’t that what is in the Quarter pounder?
If that fits I’m thinking there wouldn’t be a need for a cover…? Unless I’m misunderstanding something In the construction aspect?

On this forum, I claim absolutely no expertise... There's heavy hitters in every corner and I'm here to learn, but it is always fun to imagine something new.

I was thinking about a side-by-side instead of a coil on top of another coil. There's a lot of options with the rails in a standard side by side strat size because the rails are narrow (thinner than the coil).

But if you look at the oversized poles with the rail Hammer design, they are three or even four blades wide.. so I don't think there's enough real estate for oversized poles within the coils. I guess it would be possible to fit them in a over-under coil scenario as you suggested.

Back to the side by side, I have absolutely no idea if it would work, but I was thinking there is enough room for small pole pieces, inside the treble side of each bobbin, to protrude enough that they would connect to a relatively large hunk of metal... with the mass about the same in proportion to the full sized rail hammer poles.

I'm thinking that might get the treble side into the ballpark for inductance but I have no idea what the effect would be of essentially connecting the treble pole pieces together and the fact that the mass is above the coils instead of within.

So I threw out the cover concept because it would be a relatively easy test.. but as I said in my earlier posts, I don't have the time to wind anymore and I don't have the expertise to accurately project what it would sound like.

As always, I'd love to hear from people that actually understand how pickups work at the level that I can't imagine.

But if there was enough interest, we're talking about half of a cool rail plus something new on the treble side and there are plenty of people we could pay to wind it if anybody wanted to give it a shot.

Considering this is quite a bunny trail away from the original post, feel free to start a new thread if you want to expand on the concept.


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I got the guitar with them in today. It went to Kauer first for a free Plek. Doug is very cool to do that.

These are excellent pickups for playing clean or dirty and split very well with very little noise. These might have taken over from Saturday Night Specials as my favorite set because of the way they split and how good they sound through the entire range of settings with vol/tone controls. They might be the most versatile pickups I've yet tried. I actually think someone who likes the SNS specials and just wants a bit more mids in the bridge pickup and a bit more clarity under gain and a bit more compression would love these.

They are much better than the JBE Two Tones I've tried which I found rather bland and lacking in high end.
 
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I like the Railhammers a lot. Have the Hypervintage set, an Alnico Grande, and a Chisel bridge.

Joe does make a "Humcutter" with one rail and three slugs. It's humbucker-sized, though.
Could be two short coils underneath; I think more likely they're full length bobbins.

I believe he initially offered several half-rail P90-types in a hum-sized chassis but discontinued them.
As I remember, the poles were along the centerline so that one probably used one coil inside.

Wayback Machine has a cached page from 2014 showing those:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140728063543/http://www.railhammer.com/pickups.html
 
I got the guitar with them in today. It went to Kauer first for a free Plek. Doug is very cool to do that.

These are excellent pickups for playing clean or dirty and split very well with very little noise. These might have taken over from Saturday Night Specials as my favorite set because of the way they split and how good they sound through the entire range of settings with vol/tone controls. They might be the most versatile pickups I've yet tried. I actually think someone who likes the SNS specials and just wants a bit more mids in the bridge pickup and a bit more clarity under gain and a bit more compression would love these.

They are much better than the JBE Two Tones I've tried which I found rather bland and lacking in high end.

Doug is a great dude and builds some absolutely fantastic guitars. I sold one of my Banshees but I plan on keeping the other for as long as I play.
 
I'm still loving these pickups. If I roll of the tone enough it can basically sound like a PAF'ish pickup regardless of it's output. So I don't have to give that up at all. Describing this as a metal pickup is doing it a disservice as it sounds great clean.
 
Does anyone know what rings work this pickup. I installed a bridge jupiter pickup in my jackson custom shop but it doesnt clear the sides of the ring t I raise and lower.
 
Re: Jupiter - First Contact! (Warning: 6-string Content)

Does anyone know of PAF-output-level rail pickups? They all seem to have a pretty bright quality to them. I would need one warmer set and one scooped set, if that is possible with rails.

The Ric bass pickup, with a base change, works and sounds great. Especially when paired with a Diablo.

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