Just bought a broken Jackson RR

[AlexR]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

^ The tuner hole is a point of weakness due to much less grain length - a quick look at google shows many breaks like this with the very same pattern. Thats about the extent of why it breaks there. Tuner tightening might just have the possibility of damaging a few fibres on the top and bottom. The finish would take most of the 'damage' from tightening.

 

[dpaterson]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

^ Well. Maybe. But overtightening them is not going to help.

Put it this way and I am exaggerating for the purposes of illustration:

I’m willing to bet (but no: not willing to try it on my Jacksons) that if you tightened any one of those tuners tight enough you would be able to split the headstock. Simply put you would be compressing the headstock right on an already weak point and the pressure exerted would be in an outward direction from the hole. You could prove this with an even thicker piece of even a square piece of wood with a hole in the middle. Put a nut and bolt through the hole and tighten. Tighten enough and you will get the wood to split in the direction of the grain. Almost as if the nut and bolt are trying to pull each other into and through the hole. But obviously and as noted I am exaggerating for the purposes of demonstration and explanation. Easy does it when tightening the tuners is all I’m saying. That and don’t bash a Jackson headstock into the wall or the floor and no problem.

 

[80's_Metal]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Judging by the missing paint and gouges and dents all over this thing, I can tell it surely wasn't taken care of.
I think this one got rammed into a wall, or the floor...
Anyhow, I ordered a new Jackson logo, new pots, new knobs, a new jack plate, new pickup rings, seems everything that could be broken on this guitar HAD been broken. Also ordered an arcade Killswitch and strap lock buttons.

The neck is straight, so I'll bring her back to life, everyone needs a beater Rhoads to play!

Waiting on the stuff to show up in the mail, could be 10 days before I'm playing it.

Just have to decide on pups, cuz these stockers won't cut it.

 

[Demanic]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Blackouts?

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[Mincer]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

I say a JB/Jazz and do the 80s right!

Can't wait to see the 'after' pics!

 

[Aceman]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Can't argue with a JB

Perhaps a Distortion?


Either way.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Custom / Full Shred ?

 

[80's_Metal]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

After a light sanding.

 

[80's_Metal]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

This paint job is so hot that it started the neighbors yard on fire!

 

[80's_Metal]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Next phase complete



Final paint done. Let it dry and then reassemble.

 

[80's_Metal]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Y'all know my all time favorite pup is the DDJ, with a regular sh6 as a close second.
I love the black winter very much as well.

With this body/weight I'd also be happy with a JB, or even an invader. (I have an invader in my Gibby at the moment I may pull out)

Would also rock a dimebucker, or the DiMarzio X2n.... Have to look around see what I can get on the cheap.

 

[RorySquier]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

It looks bloody great!!!

;>)/

 

[AlexR]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

^ Well. Maybe. But overtightening them is not going to help.

Put it this way and I am exaggerating for the purposes of illustration:

I’m willing to bet (but no: not willing to try it on my Jacksons) that if you tightened any one of those tuners tight enough you would be able to split the headstock. Simply put you would be compressing the headstock right on an already weak point and the pressure exerted would be in an outward direction from the hole.

Not that it matters for the OP, but tightening down like you propose in your example would not crack the wood unless the immediate force of the washer was right on the edge of the wood piece, plus with a very high multiple of force than tuners would ever receive. The forces are highly compressive and low force - like you taking a green twig and snapping it lengthwise......the cells are very strong like that. Additionally as there is a hole, the cells will want to bend down and crush, or ovalise the hole not split it along a line. You would see the tuner start to disappear into the headstock itself.
The forces that break the headstock typically are high force and short in duration. They are also a fulcrum based force, where you have a bending effect placed on the whole headstock. The weak spot is of course it bending along the long grain, and at a spot where the tuner hole has already split the grain into two much shorter segments. Gibson headstocks have the same issue where the shorter grain of the angled headstock is interrupted by the trussrod access. It is the perfect storm there too as that is the point of greatest lever action.

 

[dpaterson]

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^ Very nice explanation. Does make a lot of sense. Thanks for that.

 

[Wattage]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

looks nuts, great job

 

[80's_Metal]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Mock ups:

 

[dpaterson]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

Dude. You work fast!!!

I'll be honest: it looks a lot better than I thought it would i.e. had my doubts about the red splotches when I first saw it but thought I'd wait and see (was going to ask you what's wrong with a nice metallic gloss finish!!! LOL!!!).

 

[80's_Metal]

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Thanks! I'd be playing it today if all the stuff we're here. Literally every single piece of plastic on this guitar was broken!

I think this body is too dented and scratched up to use a smooth finish.
I've found this bloody spatter really hides all the holes and whatnot, plus it looks really cool to me.

I'm leaning towards the chrome look for some reason...

 

[80's_Metal]

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Uh oh.... issue with OFR banging the rear.
I'll take a Dremel to the body unless you guys have a better idea?

Maybe grind the bolts a 1/4 " shorter?

 

[dpaterson]

Re: Just bought a broken Jackson RR

That's very interesting. Why would the OFR be catching??? What was on the guitar originally???

I mean I can see from your pics. where it's catching but I wonder why??? I know for certain on my Jacksons that a FR Special as well as an OFR fit perfect into the cavity so why would this one's cavity be smaller I wonder??? Just curious.