Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

[BartOfDarkness]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

I've been playing 11's from various brands over the past five years or so, but could never get into the wound G ( I just don't play any styles the benefit from it). These days I'm wanting easier playability, so I'm thinking about swapping to 9-46.

 

[Artie]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

That set is kinda the de facto standard for Jazz players using semi- and full-hollow instruments.

However, I currently use the following strings on my L-5 CES copy:
http://www.daddario.com/DADProductD...ctname=ECG25_Chromes_Flat_Wound__Light__12_52

Hint: Jazz players don't bend strings. They "slur" to have a similar effect.

You're saying you didn't know what kind of strings they were before installing'em on your guitar?

I'm just saying I haven't used 11's before, and no "wound" G string.

You got steered in a slightly wrong direction. Just use the normal D'Addario 11's, not the wound 3'rd jazz type.

I didn't get steered "wrong". Just a suggestion to try something different. I may not do it again, but I like it now. On this axe.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

Try the regular 11 set on your LP next time.

To me, 11's on Gibson scale feels like 10's on Fender scale. Your fingers get used to whatever you use, but the tone sounds fatter when you move up a gauge.

 

[HiFiRebel]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

Those are nice strings but we're too still for me. Ended up breaking them roo easily. Good tone though.

 

[Chad]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

You got double whammy'd. Flatwound strings are very stiff in comparison to normal roundwounds. Staying with the same gauge you were previously using, but switching to Chromes would have stiffened things up quite a bit. The fact that you switched to flatwounds AND went up a string gauge......yeah, you are getting double the effect.

 

[Artie]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

To me, 11's on Gibson scale feels like 10's on Fender scale.

That's exactly what my luthier friend told me. :cool2:

You got double whammy'd. Flatwound strings are very stiff in comparison to normal roundwounds. Staying with the same gauge you were previously using, but switching to Chromes would have stiffened things up quite a bit. The fact that you switched to flatwounds AND went up a string gauge......yeah, you are getting double the effect.

Hmmm . . . I didn't consider that. But I think you're right. It's definitely a different "feel".

 

[mantis]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

I've played 9-42's all my life. I mess around with 10-46 and usually go back to 9-42. I get all the tone and feel I need out of the 9's.

 

[Artie]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

I did 9's one time. Every time I did a bend, I thought I was going to snap the string. They just didn't "feel" right. 10's are my standard, but the 11's are interesting.

 

[mantis]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

I did 9's one time. Every time I did a bend, I thought I was going to snap the string. They just didn't "feel" right. 10's are my standard, but the 11's are interesting.

I honestly find the thicker the string the harder they are to play. I don't hear any tonal benefits from 9 to 10. I think they sound thicker until I play the 9's and they are just as thick sounding as the 10's. I have tired 9's and 10's on all my guitars and find the 9's play the best and I don't see any benefit in the 10's other then I think they might give me a slighty thicker tone. But I'm not even sure on that.
One thing I do like about the 10's in some cases is I get less Frett buzz when the weather changes. I did notice that. The 9's seems to vibrate more then the 10's which I think is whats causing the fret buzz more with the 9's. 9-42 and 10-46 is what I'm referring to .

 

[6stringerguy]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

I'm playing 14-64 from a seven string set in drop B and Drop A
10-46 for standard and drop D


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[Chickenwings]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

Wound g flatties are for playing music that grew in a different era. The style of playing was different. Have a listen to the cats who played jazz back then. There was not a lot of bending, often it was even just a quarter tone bend to add some attitude to a note. Sliding was a big part of the style, and flatwounds make this easy. sliding chords too is smooth and easy. 11s are considered light (too light for many) jazz players. If you let go of your post 60s electric blues and rock style of playing and embrace the styles of past masters, the heavier flat strings will make a lot more sense.
I generally use 12 Thomastik jazz swing sets for jazz but have gone up as far as labella 15 flatwounds in stainless. Really heavy strings like that are truly no harder to play than lighter ones in the jazz style because they deform less under the pick (usually pretty heavy too) and you can have a super low action and a light touch.

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

Here are the tensions for a set of Daddario 11-50 Chromes on a Gibson (3+3 tuners)

0.0110 in. 25.39 lbs 29" tailpiece to tuner
0.0150 in. 29.31 lbs 30.5"
0.0220 in. 39.29 lbs 32"
0.0300 in. 38.85 lbs 32"
0.0400 in. 36.17 lbs 30.5"
0.0500 in. 27.31 lbs 29"

No wonder they feel tight. The middle strings are friggin 15 lbs heavier than the 11 which the set is supposedly based off of.
If you customize a set based off of the tension of the 11 you'll get a set that actually feels like 11s and not 14s.

0.0110 in. 25.39 lbs
0.0140 in. 25.53 lbs
0.0170 in. 26.10 lbs plain steel g
0.0240 in. 26.13 lbs
0.0350 in. 27.64 lbs
0.0500 in. 27.31 lb

http://www.stringtensionpro.com/

 

[Rand-O-Monium]

Re: Just tried some D'Addario 11's.

Hope Artie's OK,haven't heard from him in a while...