JVM410HJS Joe Satriani Signature Head

Re: JVM410HJS Joe Satriani Signature Head

It's probably a great amp, however, you have to wonder about the quality of an amp that NEEDS a noise gate. I have had some killer high-gain amps and they were relatively quiet and the feedback was controllable even when very distorted. Some Engl amps have a noisegate feature but I've always kept them off. They really don't need it unless you're running some kind of sick amount of distortion and effects.

Satch knows his stuff far, far more than I do but if I had a signature amp, I'd want it to work great without a noise gate or any unnecessary circuitry. I'm saying this with a limited knowledge of the technology. If someone can explain why it's necessary then please elaborate. I thought the goal of creating your rig was to be able to run it WITHOUT a noise gate. Is that not true or impractical?
 
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That's why I bought my EVH 5150 III. I loves my Marshall, but to get the tone I wanted, it needed to be cranked, with a booster, which gets a ton of noise needed a noise gate. The EVH doesn't need a gate unless you're really cranking the third channel to extreme levels
 
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Doesn't the 2203KK have a noise gate built in also? I have heard nothing but good things about those, but I haven't really looked into them much, much less played one.
 
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I don't actually like the voicing as much as the original JVM. I never really liked the sound of the JSX anyway for metal rhythm. Always sounded like a duck quacking.
 
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JOLLY said:
The reverbs on my JVM410H are always completely off.
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But then again, so are you. Just jivin man. I dig Jollys JVM sound !!

This JVM/Satriani thing smacks big time of gimmick, and lest we forget, Jim Marshall isnt around anymore to veto it. I sense Satch and Dimarzio moving in for the kill.
 
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Beer$ said:
I don't actually like the voicing as much as the original JVM. I never really liked the sound of the JSX anyway for metal rhythm. Always sounded like a duck quacking.
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Duck that man!
 
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MetalManiac said:
This JVM/Satriani thing smacks big time of gimmick, and lest we forget, Jim Marshall isnt around anymore to veto it. I sense Satch and Dimarzio moving in for the kill.
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I think Jim Marshall was still around when this amp was in development. Check out the link I posted. The riffs at 9:48, 14:00, and 20:40 pretty much nails Joe's sound... and is indeed very "Marshally". Not sure if I'll call that a gimmick.
 
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MetalManiac said:
But then again, so are you. Just jivin man. I dig Jollys JVM sound !!

This JVM/Satriani thing smacks big time of gimmick, and lest we forget, Jim Marshall isnt around anymore to veto it. I sense Satch and Dimarzio moving in for the kill.
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I don't think it's a gimmic. I read about the development of this amp, and saw Satriani talking about the development of it over at least the past 2 years. Personally, I don't see the need for 4 independent noise gates. It's basically a modded JVM. The reason the artists like to release these signature models isn't the money, it's the ability to go to a foreign country for a few shows and be able to rent the same gear locally rather than lugging a few stacks on a plane overseas.
 
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thought he built his peavey from the ground up, so I am not understanding why he just jumped ship like that! no loyalty there ;)
 
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Van Noord said:
Duck that man!
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Auuch! Ahh but it's the cabinet!
 
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everdrone said:
thought he built his peavey from the ground up, so I am not understanding why he just jumped ship like that! no loyalty there ;)
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His explanation, as I read, was the Peaveys were good for his solo career, which he has done most of his career. Then he starts playing with a band with Sammy Hagar, and finds out the Marshall tone is better suited for a rock band like Chickenfoot than his Peaveys were.

So then it's time to go on tour with Chickenfoot, and he wanted to tour with Marshall rather than Peaveys- and that's when the endorsement/ contract with Peavey ended.

Understandable to me.

There's also talk that James Brown (Not THE JAMES BROWN), who developed the 5150 and JSX amps left Peavey when Satch wanted to make improvements, Satch wasn't happy that it was taking Peavey's engineers soo long to get anything done, so that was another reason he left
 
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UberMetalDood said:
It's probably a great amp, however, you have to wonder about the quality of an amp that NEEDS a noise gate. I have had some killer high-gain amps and they were relatively quiet and the feedback was controllable even when very distorted. Some Engl amps have a noisegate feature but I've always kept them off. They really don't need it unless you're running some kind of sick amount of distortion and effects.

Satch knows his stuff far, far more than I do but if I had a signature amp, I'd want it to work great without a noise gate or any unnecessary circuitry. I'm saying this with a limited knowledge of the technology. If someone can explain why it's necessary then please elaborate. I thought the goal of creating your rig was to be able to run it WITHOUT a noise gate. Is that not true or impractical?
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There is nothing wrong with putting a noise gate on a high gain amp. Especially if you are using a guitar that has coil splits or are running a fairly big pedal board like Satch does. You never know what you are going to run into touring, dirty power, lighting etc. I use an ENGL with a built in gate and try to run things without the gates if I can...someplaces you just cant get away from ugliness and the gates do help.

Noise gates are a good thing not a sign of a bad amp design.
 
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I wonder if they're actual noisegates or just noise coring circuits like in most amps that claim to have noisegates.

Not that either approach is bad I just hate it when developers say things like "all tube" "built in noisegate" "made in the XXX" when they actually aren't.

I like it when people are straight up about what's going on.
 
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UberMetalDood said:
It's probably a great amp, however, you have to wonder about the quality of an amp that NEEDS a noise gate. I have had some killer high-gain amps and they were relatively quiet and the feedback was controllable even when very distorted. Some Engl amps have a noisegate feature but I've always kept them off. They really don't need it unless you're running some kind of sick amount of distortion and effects.

Satch knows his stuff far, far more than I do but if I had a signature amp, I'd want it to work great without a noise gate or any unnecessary circuitry. I'm saying this with a limited knowledge of the technology. If someone can explain why it's necessary then please elaborate. I thought the goal of creating your rig was to be able to run it WITHOUT a noise gate. Is that not true or impractical?
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A: The Vox Time Machine Delay is an extremely noisy pedal when using it with a power supply. When testing it with batteries it's one of the best sounding delays I've ever heard. But run it on a power supply and it becomes extremely noisy. Since he runs 2 of them on his board and are an integral part of his sound, something had to be done to tame the noise.
 
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Van Noord said:
Naw man, sounds the same through all my V30 cabinets. The Mesa is just a bit darker and thicker. Rippin head when dialed in proper!
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No, I mean it must be the JSX cabinet I don't like. There was a band we played with a lot, one with a TSL one with the JSX and that JSX always had this honking, duck quack midrange sound and even on their album it sounded like that. Had a lot of clean low end though.
 
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I'm waiting for them to come out with 5 channels. 4 is just not enough!
 
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I met Jim Marshall at a promo night when they were launching the JCM 900 and the original Valvestate range. He was a very pleasant, affable man - I still have a signed Nigel Tuffnel poster but sadly the signature has evaporated over the years. Jim didn't know ANYTHING about the amps. He was a business man pure and simple.
 
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