Kemper Profiling Amp anyone? it is a modeler technological marvel??

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Who of the forum will get one first?? it seems to be the newest and strangest "amp" that I have seen yet, I would make patches for all kevlar3000's old weird amp acquisitions (j/k :friday:) but I would have a Sunn Model T patch, my thunderverb 50 patch, etc, check out Ola's friend's video, Ola videos are so funny, we learn while we have funz:

 
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Definitely not my thing. I can hear the digitalness.
 
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TheLivingDead said:
Pretty bizarre little thing. I'm not entirely sold on it though. But I'd love for it to be everything it claims to be.

Rammer will be the first here to get one. https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=233872
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cool, I see teh forum worship now, I am a bit of a tube snob that also appreciates my line 6 bass head and line 6 toneport, so I am lookin forward to tube snob reviews :28::)
 
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trevorus said:
Definitely not my thing. I can hear the digitalness.
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I hear ya
nothin' has come close to my thunderverb yet! so organic and heavy

its just me, but I compromise some for my original demos, recording is pretty fun and I think I am getting better at mixing/playing some. its nice to dream that there is a profiling amp that can just copy everything and with IRs sounds exactly like the real thing

I never heard any modeler sound that organic yet. I mean, the oscillations and radomness from a procoratII into marshall/orange/sunn/ampeg is no contest.

technology may be there for djent/deathmetal/80shairmetal to an extent tho fortunately for those processed-sound-genres...
 
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I can hear a difference between the kemper and the real amp but still, it's subtle and wouldn't come out in a live setting IMHO. Would I get one? Dunno, you need to profiles all the amps so you buy, rent or find someone to lend you the amps you want, which isn't quite possible in my part of the world, unless all I want to profile are Tiny Terrors and Peavey bandits.
 
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I think it takes the fun out of owning a room full of amps (which is my dream LOL)!

of course it would be cool to go to every guitar shop in a 200 mile radius, buy an amp, profile it, and return it. Who cares if it's a little fake sounding sometimes? You just got 50 amps for the price of one!
 
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lol u guyz are making it sound too much like a dream too good to be true :)

it would be awesome if it was that good where it could sound really organic like the real thing except for a few slipups on demos/recordings. somehow I dont see diehard orange/sunn/matamp finatics switching over but it would be interestsingz, I will be watching this one very closely, maybe consider getting the "second generation" of it once its perfected with a ton of patches for every amp in the WERELD to downloadz for the uber mayhem heavy rock br00talz :)
 
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It scares me a bit because it looks like controls from a Russian Nuclear Reactor.
:eyecrazy: The cool thing is if it is successful and the technology really works we'll see more similar units from other manufacturers.
 
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innerdreamrecords.co said:
It scares me a bit because it looks like controls from a Russian Nuclear Reactor.
:eyecrazy: The cool thing is if it is successful and the technology really works we'll see more similar units from other manufacturers.
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:) the russians are coming for ur amp simz!!!!

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ya technology has come pretty far, peeps are recording with amp simz then reamp with real amp in a friends basement for real ampness minus the interaction with the proximity of the pickup near the amp

stuff like that would never have been imagined before, so I cant wait for the amp with touch screen auto parameters one button to press for the heavy rock mayhemz!! :14::scratchch
 
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Okay so you model a specific amp using a specific mic and a specific guitar and then you shoot it out at a live gig through...what? Even a PA is going to color the output of that model to some extent, not to mention any cab or monitor you pipe it to. Send it through a mixer and add effects...what's inside the box may actually be exactly what was profiled in a small room with acoustic tiles and bass traps. But at some point the genie in the bottle has to meet the real world. That's good if it's another studio, not so good if it's an indoor or outdoor event that's half the size of a football field, or even just a theater. -Rod-
 
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Chuck Norris tried to make his AxeII sound 121% realer. Eventually, he just bought a KPA... j/k (signature from other forum)

edit: not sure of all the logistics, that stuff gets complex no doubt, profiling depends on mics, mic placement, the amount of profile refining, the way guitar is played, etc etc stuff that we dont think about and algorythyms and cab profiling blah blah blah
 
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USAPatriot said:
Okay so you model a specific amp using a specific mic and a specific guitar and then you shoot it out at a live gig through...what? Even a PA is going to color the output of that model to some extent, not to mention any cab or monitor you pipe it to. Send it through a mixer and add effects...what's inside the box may actually be exactly what was profiled in a small room with acoustic tiles and bass traps. But at some point the genie in the bottle has to meet the real world. That's good if it's another studio, not so good if it's an indoor or outdoor event that's half the size of a football field, or even just a theater. -Rod-
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I think they have profiles of amp sims and amp cabz also:

http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3464

so you could send it to the mixer, or to a real pinnoccio amp cab :joke:
 
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I see gearjoneser viewing, here is one of bogner profile comparison at 3:03:

 
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I demoed that unit at the last LA Amp Show, and was reluctant at first, but once I sat down with it and watched it work, I realized it was one of the most amazing pieces of equipment I'd ever seen. It's pretty advanced, to be able to analyze everything about an amp tone, then spit it back out.

My big issue with things like this are.....OK, what's the price?

And then, I walk out of the room and plug into a bunch of killer tube amps, and wonder if I really need to model every amp in the world, when I really only want a small handful of tones. It's that way with modelers. You've got over 100 different tones, but only 5% are ones you like to play on.

I guess it's just a case of 'more than I need, but cool anyway.' And expensive. It seems like a great tool for a record producer, and I'm sure a lot of the serious ones will buy the Kemper as a primary library of guitar tones to choose from. If I were in that position, I'd surely own one and make a hobby of profiling nice amps I come across.

In reality, this is something that would be great fun to own. But the fact remains that it's money, and you'd really need a viable use for owning something like this.
 
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kemper plexi soundz: http://soundcloud.com/xpenno/kemper-pleximindlesswanking

ya, I only really want ONE AMP ONE CAB (but at low volumes so I can record in my apartment :) ), wonder if they can build like a supercomputer to crunch a zillion algorythyms for my orange amp and my orange cab, I would just want to store all the info for that only really and refine only that so it sounds as good as possible on recordingz late at night and apartment neighbors stay mildly annoyed and dont reach for their apt manager phonez...

Im definitely not getting a kemper in the next few years or an axefxII, the technology just keeps getting better and seems to be on the cusp at the moment :beerchug:
 
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So this profiles one specific setting of an amp? I think I would stick with the standard digital modelers. Wattage posted a clip of Hendrix stuff with an HD500 that sounded much better than the plexi clip above (IMO).

Hope Wattage doesn't mind me reposting this:
http://soundcloud.com/wattage13/jimicastle
 
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Surgeon said:
I can hear a difference between the kemper and the real amp but still, it's subtle and wouldn't come out in a live setting IMHO. Would I get one? Dunno, you need to profiles all the amps so you buy, rent or find someone to lend you the amps you want, which isn't quite possible in my part of the world, unless all I want to profile are Tiny Terrors and Peavey bandits.
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Keep in mind that you can put the profiles into a USB. Should be easy enough to find people on the net to trade profiles with.

I'm a little interested in one for being able to profile some of my vintage amps that I worry about blowing the speakers out of and the wear and tear on their aging components. If it can model good edge of break up sounds and convince me 90% of the way I might pick one up just for that.
 
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