Kiss your ash goodbye

[BlueStrings]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

I didn't mean modeling, I meant lab grown "wood" or wood-like material.
Which now I know, Aristides does that, nice!

 

[orpheo]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

I love these ideas. Just a handful of companies are exploring it, though.

We have a world-wide patent and trademark for this material and its construction so I doubt anyone can do it as we do for the foreseeable future

 

[orpheo]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

I didn't mean modeling, I meant lab grown "wood" or wood-like material.
Which now I know, Aristides does that, nice!

It's not 'grown' perse, it's laminated in a mould, but made in a way to emulate wood. Only... better (more resonant, more stable, less prone to warping and so, so consistent!)

 

[Mincer]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

We have a world-wide patent and trademark for this material and its construction so I doubt anyone can do it as we do for the foreseeable future

Well, I mean 'alternative materials' as a whole, not specifically Arium. I dig Flaxwood guitars, too.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Time to convert anything Ibanez Blazer to 6-point trem...

 

[Francois]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Long ago Danelectro had the Masonite...

 

[orpheo]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Long ago Danelectro had the Masonite...

Masonite is still a wood fiber based product. Aristides' Arium has 0% wood.

 

[NegativeEase]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Is Carolina Ash good for guitar making?

I've got hundreds of them on my property -and every hurricane takes out a few.

 

[dzdandcunfsd]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Is Carolina Ash good for guitar making?

I've got hundreds of them on my property -and every hurricane takes out a few.

As far as I know(usually wrong) that's more commonly called swamp ash.......and yeah it's good and still a pretty widely used wood, but this whole thread was news to me(ash being "phased" out)

 

[dzdandcunfsd]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Doesn't sound that odd. I mean, isn't that exactly what Aristides is doing? Albeit not wood, it's Arium, a manmade material. But it does 'model' itself to 'wood'.

https://aristidesinstruments.com/story/history

that was a good read, thanks! going to have to look into trying to "play" one of those.....positive I can't afford it without seeing a price hahahah

 

[solspirit]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

What about bamboo?

 

[Mincer]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

What about bamboo?

I have an acoustic made of bamboo. It sounds good to me, and looks cool, too.

 

[YeRedHouseOverYonder]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

White pine sounds better to my ears over Swamp Ash.

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[solspirit]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

I've always thought that we were pigeonholed as far as guitar wood is concerned. While it is absolutely true that some Woods have better tonal qualities, there are literally hundreds of species out there that we have no clue about.

 

[esandes]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Hemp?

 

[orpheo]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

I've always thought that we were pigeonholed as far as guitar wood is concerned. While it is absolutely true that some Woods have better tonal qualities, there are literally hundreds of species out there that we have no clue about.

Yes, we are. The major woods for bodies are ash, alder, mahogany and maple. However, for mahogany alone there are like, a dozen replacements. For alder, well... alder is easy, cheap and grows fast and isn't threatened, but ash can be replaced with a plethora of Eurasian contemporaries, hickory or chestnut. Same goes for rosewood and well... what not. It's just that guitarists are so darned conservative in their choices.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Yes, we are. The major woods for bodies are ash, alder, mahogany and maple. However, for mahogany alone there are like, a dozen replacements. For alder, well... alder is easy, cheap and grows fast and isn't threatened, but ash can be replaced with a plethora of Eurasian contemporaries, hickory or chestnut. Same goes for rosewood and well... what not. It's just that guitarists are so darned conservative in their choices.

They really are, aren't they? Makes it difficult for companies who break away from tradition. It is swimming upstream, no matter how good their ideas are.

 

[dzdandcunfsd]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

I have an acoustic made of bamboo. It sounds good to me, and looks cool, too.

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That does look pretty awesome, is it super light? I've often wondered about bamboo, never had a chance to pick one up

 

[Mincer]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

That does look pretty awesome, is it super light? I've often wondered about bamboo, never had a chance to pick one up

Well, it is a 3/4 scale travel guitar, so it is pretty light, anyway. It sounds as least as good as plywood, or whatever else they make cheaper travel guitars out of. And there is nothing more replenish-able than bamboo.

 

[dzdandcunfsd]

Re: Kiss your ash goodbye

Well, it is a 3/4 scale travel guitar, so it is pretty light, anyway. It sounds as least as good as plywood, or whatever else they make cheaper travel guitars out of. And there is nothing more replenish-able than bamboo.

Yeah I've had some growing where I wanted a garden once........good luck killing it! I'm a fan of the 3/4 scale acoustics, I'll have to look into one of those eventually.