Klon . . . is it really all that !

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaZ-fGVBp_Q&feature=player_embedded



Hahahahahaha, now sit back and watch all the Klon owners trying their level best to defend said stupidly over-priced box, and give every excuse under the sun to justify the price they paid !

:lmao:


"oh, but this was not at concert volume", or "his chops just not bring justice to what the Klon can really do", or "it sounds better in real live, Youtube make anything sounds real bad", or "it is better as a booster, than an OD", or, or, or . . .

. . . ooh yes ! RIGHT ! Whatever you say mate !





James
 
Re: Klon . . . is it really all that !

I think it sounded good from those clips. I understand the appeal, but I also understand it changes the tone pretty subtly. Gearjoneser can chime in on this one since he's a longterm fan of the pedal.

But in regards to the video, that was a great job! The intro by the kid was hilarious too :D
 
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Wow a Laney with a built in printer! Cool.

I thought the Klon sounded slightly more articulative if that's a word. Crisp may work.

I don't know how much they cost but it shouldn't cost more than $50us more than a Bad Monkey and even that's pushing it.
 
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What's wrong with the chops or the tone?? You don't have to be satriani to enjoy a pedal right? If not I'm wasting my time over here.

I think both pedals sounded pretty similar but heard subtle differences still.

I don't think I like one better than the other but I don't own any nor know how much each is worth. I'll just say he didn't convince me to buy the klon over the bM for now, but I'm sure there are reasons for both.
 
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I had a Klon on loan from a chum a few months back.

Price comparisons with a Bad Monkey or similar are misleading; the Klon is quite a bit more complex and is hand built, which is always going to be more expensive. Doesn't make it inherently better, of course, but it does explain the difference to some extent. Plus it has a custom made enclosure (again more expensive) and a few other unusual parts. It's expensive, certainly, but looking at what's inside and how well made it is I don't think it's overpriced (the two being quite different things).

Anyways. It does sound nice. A bit of a treble lift without being harsh, and lots of boost available. The dirt was good at low levels, but not great for medium grit. The controls were good and progressive though.

I play my amps clean and the Klon isn't really intended for that use. I've also heard it through a low wattage valve amp and it worked very well there.

In short I wouldn't buy one - it doesn't do something I need/want. However, I can see why the people who like them like them. And having seen schematics (which looked to correlate with the PCB and components) it's not just a tweaked TS - there's some interesting design in there.

I think it's worth trying one if you get the chance.
 
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I have a Bad Monkey in a custom painted enclosure made by Hoss, so I just call it the "Hoss Drive."

People who are in to boutique stuff, not knowing it's a Digitech Bad Monkey in a different enclosure will note how complex the gain structure is and how crisp but magically full it is, etc. and my personal favorite, "that sounds way better than anything I've tried in a store."

Funny, kind of like the placebo effect. I guess they figure it was hand wired by some guy I know named Hoss.

Third from the left, between the silver box and the DS-1
 
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the klon is a great pedal for what it does well, which is push a driven amp harder. i know a few guys with em and they make they sound fantastic. if you have a great amp but wish it had a foot switchable boost then a klon does that really well. it takes the tone of your rig and adds a little more gain, push and maybe volume. its not worth the silly prices that people pay but thats fine. a '59 les paul isnt worth $250k either but people still pay that kind of silly money for them.
 
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Wow a Laney with a built in printer! Cool.

I thought the Klon sounded slightly more articulative if that's a word. Crisp may work.

I don't know how much they cost but it shouldn't cost more than $50us more than a Bad Monkey and even that's pushing it.



Tom, see post #8.



James
 
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the ebay prices are silly. people pay more for a used one than a new one costs cause there is a wait to get new ones. there are a handful of pedals that get silly prices on ebay. a new king of tone cost $240, they go used on ebay for $325.
 
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If you want to hear a Klon put to the best use possible check out the newest CD and DVD from Jeff Beck: Live At Ronnie Scott's. Should leave you with little doubt about what the Klon can do in the right hands.
 
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the ebay prices are silly. people pay more for a used one than a new one costs cause there is a wait to get new ones. there are a handful of pedals that get silly prices on ebay. a new king of tone cost $240, they go used on ebay for $325.

or the tim and timmy...ugh...even the in production skreddy stuff.
 
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Here's a website by a maker of a $400 pedal that disses a $330 pedal:
http://www.zacharyguitars.com/Klon.htm


I have to admit that I find the boutique market rather funny with all the boutique versions of a rather cheap mass produced Ibanez pedal. It's kind of like ordering pizza in a gourmet restaurant.



You can get great tone from $100 pedals and let the tone snobs rumble on. :opcorn:
 
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If you want to try that vibe for not a lot of cash, the Rocktron Austin Gold is modeled after the Klon so it does more or less the same thing.

It won't do very much hair on the notes even with the drive cranked, but it makes your amp sound like a bigger and better version of itself. It's got tons of volume boost, and a tone control that only affects the bass content before the clipping stages. Only pedal that ever completely satisfied me with it's singing quality on the neck pickup of my LP. To boot, it makes a KILLER booster to put in front of another type of OD.

Kind of like a treble booster with a hint of OD. And it clocks in at around $50 used.
 
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I have to admit that I find the boutique market rather funny with all the boutique versions of a rather cheap mass produced Ibanez pedal. It's kind of like ordering pizza in a gourmet restaurant.

The Klon isn't a TS clone, nor a tweaked TS.

You can get great tone from $100 pedals and let the tone snobs rumble on.

Indeed you can. Similarly there are expensive pedals that sound very good, and if you've got the money, why not buy what you think is the best?
 
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I have a Klon, a King of Tone and a TS-808. All three are different, and I'm glad I have all three. I got each one new from the manufacturer, so I didn't pay the crazy eBay prices. Still, the Klon was quite expensive. I love it nonetheless. I'm not a tone snob; it's just a great pedal.

- Keith
 
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I think that this thread is inflammatory.

Klon is expensive, but so are most 'boutique' pedals. Ultimately, it's worth what you're willing to pay for it.

I've played with the Klon many times. I do not own one, and am unlikely to do so because it doesn't do what I want it to do. I do think it's a quality pedal, however.

A Lizard Legs Flying Dragon does most of what a Klon does, and is very similar in approach, for about 1/3 to 1/4 of the price, if that's your only concern.
 
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