Lemon oil on Ebony??

Re: Lemon oil on Ebony??

Lemon oil, just like you would a rosewood fingerboard. You should be more aware of the condition of ebony because it's a harder wood than rosewood. If ebony dries out too much, it'll crack. When ever it looks like it might be thirsty (a little dry, or pale in color compared to its normal appearance), give it a little drink of the lemon oil.
 
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I would NEVER use lemon oil on ANY fretboard.

The reason for that is that the "lemon oil" you get in guitar stores is just baby oil with lemon scent and color, which does NOTHING to maintain your fingerboard. In the worst case, it will mix with the oils in the wood, then evaporate, leaving the fretboard completely dry. At its best, it will make the fretboard shiny for a week, and nothing more. Trust me on this.

What you need is some Ed Boyle Fret Doctor. I got a bottle myself, and it works a thousand times better than lemon oil. One treatment has made my fretboards conditioned and healthy for over a month! Order it from http://www.beafifer.com/boredoctor.htm and dont look back. Its really cheap, too! :)

-Erlend
 
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Erlend_G said:
I would NEVER use lemon oil on ANY fretboard.

The reason for that is that the "lemon oil" you get in guitar stores is just baby oil with lemon scent and color, which does NOTHING to maintain your fingerboard. In the worst case, it will mix with the oils in the wood, then evaporate, leaving the fretboard completely dry. At its best, it will make the fretboard shiny for a week, and nothing more. Trust me on this.

Sorry, but I have to call BS here.... most popular lemon oils or "fretboard conditioners" such as Kyser's "Lem oil" or Stella-Harmony Lemon oil are almost pure lemongrass oil, which is chemically about as close to perfect as it gets for this application... I have no idea where this myth originally started (it´s been around for ages), probably from some douche putting Lemon Pledge on his guitar and trying to cover it up with a lie....

What you need is some Ed Boyle Fret Doctor. I got a bottle myself, and it works a thousand times better than lemon oil. One treatment has made my fretboards conditioned and healthy for over a month! Order it from http://www.beafifer.com/boredoctor.htm and dont look back. Its really cheap, too! :)

-Erlend

While I haven´t used the Fret doctor / Bore doctor, you and others swear by it, and it does make a good impression. Certainly something to try some day...
 
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Thanks for the insight! Thats what I thought, as most woods require conditioning. I just wasnt sure how to handle the ebony due to its hard nature.
The stuff I use came from Carvin. Its supposed to be natural Lemon oil and contain no solvents.
 
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HamerPlyr said:
Lemon oil, just like you would a rosewood fingerboard. You should be more aware of the condition of ebony because it's a harder wood than rosewood. If ebony dries out too much, it'll crack. When ever it looks like it might be thirsty (a little dry, or pale in color compared to its normal appearance), give it a little drink of the lemon oil.

Yeah it definately loses its rich black color when dry, and definately requires more in the maintenance department than rosewood. I use this stuff called "Guitar Honey" its nice and light in texture so the ebony really absorbs it well.
 
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Zerberus said:
Sorry, but I have to call BS here.... most popular lemon oils or "fretboard conditioners" such as Kyser's "Lem oil" or Stella-Harmony Lemon oil are almost pure lemongrass oil, which is chemically about as close to perfect as it gets for this application... I have no idea where this myth originally started (it´s been around for ages), probably from some douche putting Lemon Pledge on his guitar and trying to cover it up with a lie....
...

Thanks, Tim Bob. You beat me to it.
 
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Absana said:
should I be feeding my guitars :|!?

Yes!

See the empty neck cavity? That's where Eddie puts his sandwiches:

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Zerberus said:
Sorry, but I have to call BS here.... most popular lemon oils or "fretboard conditioners" such as Kyser's "Lem oil" or Stella-Harmony Lemon oil are almost pure lemongrass oil, which is chemically about as close to perfect as it gets for this application... I have no idea where this myth originally started (it´s been around for ages), probably from some douche putting Lemon Pledge on his guitar and trying to cover it up with a lie....

Yeah...I agree.

I'm calling Shenannigans on Erlend. Either provide a source or consider it to be untrue.
 
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I've heard this before and wanted to see if it's true: Can't overconditioning your fretboard lead to possible loosening of the frets due to rot or some other malady?
 
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It definitely could if your conditioner is a solvent and your frets were glued into oversized slots. Why you're conditioning your fretboard with solvent I don't know, though.

I'm not sure if it will hurt it otherwise.
 
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Erlend_G said:
I would NEVER use lemon oil on ANY fretboard.

The reason for that is that the "lemon oil" you get in guitar stores is just baby oil with lemon scent and color, which does NOTHING to maintain your fingerboard. In the worst case, it will mix with the oils in the wood, then evaporate, leaving the fretboard completely dry. At its best, it will make the fretboard shiny for a week, and nothing more. Trust me on this.

What you need is some Ed Boyle Fret Doctor. I got a bottle myself, and it works a thousand times better than lemon oil. One treatment has made my fretboards conditioned and healthy for over a month! Order it from http://www.beafifer.com/boredoctor.htm and dont look back. Its really cheap, too! :)

-Erlend

This sounds so much like an advertisement. Are you sure you're not getting a kickback from every fretdoctor sold? =P
 
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JacksonMIA said:
It definitely could if your conditioner is a solvent and your frets were glued into oversized slots. Why you're conditioning your fretboard with solvent I don't know, though.

I'm not sure if it will hurt it otherwise.

Or 60 MOLAR HCL... it would eat out the frets very nicely. I'm sure its happened though. Someone, somewhere put some weird chemical on their fretboards to loosen the frets and rot it all to heck and hell and hades and back.

Heck and hades sayeth me!!!!
 
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Zerberus said:
Sorry, but I have to call BS here.... most popular lemon oils or "fretboard conditioners" such as Kyser's "Lem oil" or Stella-Harmony Lemon oil are almost pure lemongrass oil, which is chemically about as close to perfect as it gets for this application... I have no idea where this myth originally started (it´s been around for ages), probably from some douche putting Lemon Pledge on his guitar and trying to cover it up with a lie....



While I haven´t used the Fret doctor / Bore doctor, you and others swear by it, and it does make a good impression. Certainly something to try some day...

Zerb, there are some Lemon Oil products in this country (the USA) that really are mineral oil (baby oil) with a lemon sent. They have some positives in that they are, like baby oil, non-flammable and non-toxic. I use the Parker and Bailey brand and it is mineral oil with a lemon scent...we use it to maintain the cherry furniture that we sell. I think of it as being an environmentally responsible and safe furniture polish. And yes...I do use it on my guitars and fingerboards sometimes. Works fine.
 
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Fret Doctor works for me! Seeing this stuff penetrate a dense fretboard like ebony is nothing short of miraculous. This stuff disappears on a dry rosewood fretboard in a short time.

Erlend is using this stuff on fretless electric bass, so the application he is using on is more critical than most from a players perspective, I suppose.

If people want to call BS, fine. My fretboards are definitley better off by using this product.

:)
 
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Sludgenutz said:
Fret Doctor works for me! Seeing this stuff penetrate a dense fretboard like ebony is nothing short of miraculous. This stuff disappears on a dry rosewood fretboard in a short time.

Erlend is using this stuff on fretless electric bass, so the application he is using on is more critical than most from a players perspective, I suppose.

If people want to call BS, fine. My fretboards are definitley better off by using this product.

:)

true, but on the other hand, all those strats and LPs survived from the 50s without the benefit of Fret Doctor... =)
 
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UCSDBoy said:
true, but on the other hand, all those strats and LPs survived from the 50s without the benefit of Fret Doctor... =)

Yes! And so have Strad violins. These instruments are removed from display and storage, and played "on purpose" just so they retain their tone. They do not have frets either!

I do not think that just because a guitar built in the 1950's...or in Valhala, for that matter, is somehow resistant to natural forces. Some survived wonderfully...some did not. You are not going to see anyone bragging of some million dollar collection of instuments that "failed".

Just because you see a nice 1950's Chevy or Ford pickup rolling down the highway, does not mean all of them survived intact.

:)
 
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