britishgeetah
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Does anyone know of any differences with the LP Junior and the LP Standard, other then the pickguard and P-90's?
Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
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seafoamer
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
std's got a carved maple top.
std's got a carved maple top.
britishgeetah
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
ok..... is the body thinner too? Is that why they call it JR.?
ok..... is the body thinner too? Is that why they call it JR.?
jmh151
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
The LP Junior was originally made as a cheap alternative, or beginner's guitar compared to the Les Paul Standard or Custom. The Jr is a flat to mahogany body, mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard, dot inlays (sometimes trapezoid), and usually 1 or 2 p-90 pickups.
A Standard is totally different and alot more. Carved maple top, body and neck binding, 2 humbuckers, 2 vol, 2 tone.
Anyway, the Jr is named Jr as it was a minimalist and cheaper alternative to a Les Paul, probably meant to compete price wice with a fender Stratocaster
The LP Junior was originally made as a cheap alternative, or beginner's guitar compared to the Les Paul Standard or Custom. The Jr is a flat to mahogany body, mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard, dot inlays (sometimes trapezoid), and usually 1 or 2 p-90 pickups.
A Standard is totally different and alot more. Carved maple top, body and neck binding, 2 humbuckers, 2 vol, 2 tone.
Anyway, the Jr is named Jr as it was a minimalist and cheaper alternative to a Les Paul, probably meant to compete price wice with a fender Stratocaster
ratherdashing
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It's kind of funny, because in many ways I think the Jr is the way cooler guitar.
It's kind of funny, because in many ways I think the Jr is the way cooler guitar.
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seafoamer
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
a Jr. has 1 p-90
a special has 2 p-90's.
jmh151 said:
a Jr. has 1 p-90
a special has 2 p-90's.
ratherdashing
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
Also, the Jr and the Special are both double cutaway, whereas the Standard is a single cut.
Also, the Jr and the Special are both double cutaway, whereas the Standard is a single cut.
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seafoamer
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
actually Jrs & Specials were single cutaways 1954-1958
ratherdashing said:
actually Jrs & Specials were single cutaways 1954-1958
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
TELL 'EM Foamy!
TELL 'EM Foamy!
Gunny47
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
Totally different sounds too BTW, the Juniors got a thin, nasty crunchy sound wheras the Standards can be configured to sound a lot more smooth and warm in the neck pickup and still have a very fat overdrive sound with the bridge pickup. Both great guitar. After a late 50s style standard or goldtops (my real favorite), id pick a junior.
Specials have 2 pickups, neck binding and 4 knobs. Standards/Goldtops say "Model" on the headstock under the Les Paul signature and the Specials say "Special" and the Juniors say "Junior" in that spot. Im not sure about the customs, I think they say "Model" too, unless they say Custom correct me if Im wrong.
Totally different sounds too BTW, the Juniors got a thin, nasty crunchy sound wheras the Standards can be configured to sound a lot more smooth and warm in the neck pickup and still have a very fat overdrive sound with the bridge pickup. Both great guitar. After a late 50s style standard or goldtops (my real favorite), id pick a junior.
Specials have 2 pickups, neck binding and 4 knobs. Standards/Goldtops say "Model" on the headstock under the Les Paul signature and the Specials say "Special" and the Juniors say "Junior" in that spot. Im not sure about the customs, I think they say "Model" too, unless they say Custom correct me if Im wrong.
Aceman
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Geez - Get it right guys!
Junior -
Flat top
All Mahogony
Single cut
Wrap around tail piece
Single P-90
Or...
Flat top
All Mahogony
Double cut
Stop/ABR (standard) Tailpiece
Two P-90's
Either way...
Dot's on the neck
No Binding
Lots of vintage mojo
Get the Junior, get a custom shop Custom p-90 with a tap down to vintage using a push-pull pot in the tone slot!
Special -
Skinny
Flat top
Standard tailpiece
Two Humbuckers
Don't know why anyone would want this....
Geez - Get it right guys!
Junior -
Flat top
All Mahogony
Single cut
Wrap around tail piece
Single P-90
Or...
Flat top
All Mahogony
Double cut
Stop/ABR (standard) Tailpiece
Two P-90's
Either way...
Dot's on the neck
No Binding
Lots of vintage mojo
Get the Junior, get a custom shop Custom p-90 with a tap down to vintage using a push-pull pot in the tone slot!
Special -
Skinny
Flat top
Standard tailpiece
Two Humbuckers
Don't know why anyone would want this....
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
Oops, forgot about that. Thanks.
seafoamer said:
Oops, forgot about that. Thanks.
The Golden Boy
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
Actually, in the past few years, Gibson has done a number on the naming convention- where the Junior Special (yes, there is/was a guitar called the Les Paul Junior Special) was a single cut Special with humbuckers...seafoamer said:
CapoFirstFret
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does anyone remember the Junior Special Plus with the AAA flame maple top, flat top, and two humbuckers? I still want one of those!
does anyone remember the Junior Special Plus with the AAA flame maple top, flat top, and two humbuckers? I still want one of those!
britishgeetah
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
like a coil tap for a P-90? How does that work?:banana:Aceman said:
cheezemaster
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Re: Les Paul Junior - Differences with the Les Paul Standard?
Not quite.. Anything called a Junior has 1 dogear P-90 (as far as I've seen). There are both single and double-cut Juniors, depending on the year.
Special (traditionally) is like a Junior but with 2 soapbar P-90s. Also available in both single and double-cut depending on the year. These are not "skinny" they're the same as a Jr. (thicker than an SG). Some have tuneomatic bridges, some have wraparound.
NEW Specials - Late 90s onward are flat-top, single cut with 2 humbukers, no pickguar.. but not all of them, so it's confusing. I've got a '96 Special which is a traditional nice thick slab, 50s neck, double-cut with 2 P-90s. The thing they're calling a "Faded Double Cut" these days is essentially an old-school special, but thinner with a cheesy finish. I think the Custom shop still sells reisues of 50s Specials.
Aceman said:
Not quite.. Anything called a Junior has 1 dogear P-90 (as far as I've seen). There are both single and double-cut Juniors, depending on the year.
Special (traditionally) is like a Junior but with 2 soapbar P-90s. Also available in both single and double-cut depending on the year. These are not "skinny" they're the same as a Jr. (thicker than an SG). Some have tuneomatic bridges, some have wraparound.
NEW Specials - Late 90s onward are flat-top, single cut with 2 humbukers, no pickguar.. but not all of them, so it's confusing. I've got a '96 Special which is a traditional nice thick slab, 50s neck, double-cut with 2 P-90s. The thing they're calling a "Faded Double Cut" these days is essentially an old-school special, but thinner with a cheesy finish. I think the Custom shop still sells reisues of 50s Specials.
That90'sGuy
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Good call cheezemaster, you made the corrections so I don't have to :fing2:
I can't figure out for the life of me why people find P90's thin. To me they were always really fat pickups, just they don't have quite the round bottom humbuckers have and have a much more aggressive midrange (which gives it that snarl and bite that humbuckers don't have).
IMO, P90's are the sh!t. I love really well made PAFs too, but P90s are just pure rock and roll, they're amazing.
Good call cheezemaster, you made the corrections so I don't have to :fing2:
I can't figure out for the life of me why people find P90's thin. To me they were always really fat pickups, just they don't have quite the round bottom humbuckers have and have a much more aggressive midrange (which gives it that snarl and bite that humbuckers don't have).
IMO, P90's are the sh!t. I love really well made PAFs too, but P90s are just pure rock and roll, they're amazing.
cheezemaster
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Amen brotha!
the_Chris said:
Amen brotha!
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