chadd
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Re: Les Paul owners: advice...?
I take him at his word of wanting classic LP tone at a lower weight within a certain budget. I'm looking at the budget and the tone requirements as a priority, why else would someone be looking for a les paul? You're looking at the weight as the primary focus, I'm looking at the les paul that will likely give him what he wants. Historics do come in pretty light weights, they aren't 12 pound Norlins. It's not about the vintage specs for me, it's simply the consistently best quality les paul that you can find on the used market.
As for other options being cheaper, that's completely true. However, I wouldn't buy a squier bullet, just because it was cheaper than an MIA strat. Buying a used historic in his budget is a no-lose situation as well. The major financial hit happens the first time they are sold used, it's hard to lose money buying one at the price point we're talking about.
I own and play a couple LTDs, there is a significant difference between them and Gibson Historics. There's nothing wrong with the EC-1000 at all, they're solid guitars. They simply aren't in the class of guitars that often cost more by an order of magnitude, especially when you are looking for "that sound". Historics are absurdly overpriced off the shelf, but that's not what I'm suggesting.
Your insults and disparagement aside, all I can do is take him at his word and not make too many assumptions. There are a lot of great suggestions in this topic that may all work for the OP, all we can do is present the options and answer his questions in a way that helps him make his decision.
Well Chadd, I have to disagree with your disagreement. Read everything he said. The guy does not dig big thick heavy Les Pauls (and don't tell me how "relatively light" the historic will be). And he wants to spend <$2K. He doesn't want vintage. I guess when he asks for a non-ceramic pickup with soft bass and round highs with prominent midshipmen's you'll suggest a Custom?
So you are basically telling him to get a big heavy and extremely expensive Les Paul, that he probably won't like and is planning to mod the hell out of. Remind me not to ask you for suggestions about anything....
I have played a crap ton of EC-1000's. Not a damn thing wrong with them except they lack scent of cork to deeply sniffed. He can spend ~$600, get a guitar that is way more in line with his thinner, lighter SG preferences, and likely already has Duncans. And if he doesn't like it can flip it for $400.
I take him at his word of wanting classic LP tone at a lower weight within a certain budget. I'm looking at the budget and the tone requirements as a priority, why else would someone be looking for a les paul? You're looking at the weight as the primary focus, I'm looking at the les paul that will likely give him what he wants. Historics do come in pretty light weights, they aren't 12 pound Norlins. It's not about the vintage specs for me, it's simply the consistently best quality les paul that you can find on the used market.
As for other options being cheaper, that's completely true. However, I wouldn't buy a squier bullet, just because it was cheaper than an MIA strat. Buying a used historic in his budget is a no-lose situation as well. The major financial hit happens the first time they are sold used, it's hard to lose money buying one at the price point we're talking about.
I own and play a couple LTDs, there is a significant difference between them and Gibson Historics. There's nothing wrong with the EC-1000 at all, they're solid guitars. They simply aren't in the class of guitars that often cost more by an order of magnitude, especially when you are looking for "that sound". Historics are absurdly overpriced off the shelf, but that's not what I'm suggesting.
Your insults and disparagement aside, all I can do is take him at his word and not make too many assumptions. There are a lot of great suggestions in this topic that may all work for the OP, all we can do is present the options and answer his questions in a way that helps him make his decision.