Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

[Mr Wolf]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

Dean Hardtail with trem of this sort?

or the main tunomatic version like i have

Not THE Les Paul sound, but same scale, mahog with a maple cap and plays like a dream. I got the korean hartail select, it's had a fret dress and plays like a dream! i would put it up against guitars at double the price. The stock pickups are pretty alright aswell. The guitar has a bit of bulk to the heel which i would say helps steer it towards Les Paul kind of sound but its just right, doesnt get in the way when playing up high

+ the A2Pn sounds sweeeeeeeet!!!

 

[john5959]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

Dean Hardtail with trem of this sort?

or the main tunomatic version like i have

Not THE Les Paul sound, but same scale, mahog with a maple cap and plays like a dream. I got the korean hartail select, it's had a fret dress and plays like a dream! i would put it up against guitars at double the price. The stock pickups are pretty alright aswell. The guitar has a bit of bulk to the heel which i would say helps steer it towards Les Paul kind of sound but its just right, doesnt get in the way when playing up high

+ the A2Pn sounds sweeeeeeeet!!!

yeah those are sweet looking

 

[rguser]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

thanks guys. I really like that last one.And the Brian moore seems pretty cool with gibo scale length.

LP construction and scale with a fenderish bridge is not common. I was looking at that custom tele special a while ago. I ended up choosing washburn idol 67 over it because of the buzz feiten system. otherwise, fenderish bridges do feel more comfy than TOM. I am not regretting but if that custom tele remains in production I am gonna get the gold one in the future for sure. a gold carved top and double cream are just too much for my self control :

I was looking at this, too:
http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/guitar.asp?model=AX220QM&z=y

 

[Mr Wolf]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

yeah those are sweet looking

Some from the USA Exotic Range:baby:

 

[skh515]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

Dean Hardtail with trem of this sort?

or the main tunomatic version like i have

First of all, how can a guitar be both a Hardtail and a Trem at the same time?
Hardtail means fixed bridge, right? I wonder what they are smoking over at Dean.

Second, I've heard a lot of criticism of Les Pauls, but I don't think playing comfort has ever come up. Can you explain, to a Strat-Cat like me, what you mean?

 

[Pecan]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

damn, I think you just beat Jeff at spreading gas....

 

[FenderStratRock3]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

First of all, how can a guitar be both a Hardtail and a Trem at the same time?
Hardtail means fixed bridge, right? I wonder what they are smoking over at Dean.

Second, I've heard a lot of criticism of Les Pauls, but I don't think playing comfort has ever come up. Can you explain, to a Strat-Cat like me, what you mean?

I agree with you on the HardTail/Trem thing, but the HardTail is the model name, I think because they were originally hard tail guitars, and they just stuck with the same name.

I also sometimes find LPs uncomfortable to play whilst sitting down. I love the tone though. One day I'll own one. I promise!!

 

[Mr Wolf]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

Yea the Trem version has only come out recently. The Hardtail part is the model name, an odd one at that! My only complaint about les pauls is the big ole heel, i can work around it but i find the Hardtail easier to play. Theres some niceties like a stomach cut etc which isnt essential, but i think is nice. Also its a damn pretty guitar if you ask me!

Jeff

 

[rguser]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

Yea the Trem version has only come out recently. The Hardtail part is the model name, an odd one at that! My only complaint about les pauls is the big ole heel, i can work around it but i find the Hardtail easier to play. Theres some niceties like a stomach cut etc which isnt essential, but i think is nice. Also its a damn pretty guitar if you ask me!

Jeff

don't forget a PRS single cut with trem!
lawsuit is over and they are coming back out! smoother neck heel, too.

 

[Mr Wolf]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

don't forget a PRS single cut with trem!
lawsuit is over and they are coming back out! smoother neck heel, too.

oooh they are puurrrty!

 

[john5959]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0262000561

I think I may have found an affordable alternative.If you click the specs link it says it has a Pearly Gates-bridge and a 59-neck.It has 24-3/4 scale, maple top, mahogony body and best of all it has an identical bridge to my strat-only hard-tail.

 

[rguser]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0262000561

I think I may have found an affordable alternative.If you click the specs link it says it has a Pearly Gates-bridge and a 59-neck.It has 24-3/4 scale, maple top, mahogony body and best of all it has an identical bridge to my strat-only hard-tail.

those custom tele HH are more expansive than the similar custom tele special mentioned in the previous page
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/515207/
they are MF.com only and no maple top.
but yes I agree these look awesome.

 

[Gamera]

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It's amazing how often this question gets asked. Do Strats really sound that bad?

I didn't think so. For leads they're unbeatable. But I'll admit they can lack a certain "oomph" in the crunch department. So for my $$$ the AM DLX Fat Strat was just what the doc ordered:

The neck and mid singles will give you all the classic Strat punch and quack you'll ever need. But the 'bucker in the bridge combined with the right amp/overdrive/distortion really takes you to fatter tonal spaces. It's a great compromise although it's not spot on to an LP.

So I eventually bought a Dean V for that extra "oomph."

It's a great crunch and sustain beast, and like most Deans, it's rather reasonable. So instead of looking for one guitar that did everything, I wound up with one guitar that does most everything and one that does crunch really well. And together with the rest of my elCheapo arsenal they look really cool together when you line 'em all up.

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

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I think the tele body shape actually comes closer to LP territory among guitars that are not actual LP's, at least moreso than the stratty shapes. Through in the LP woods formula and some PAF voiced humbuckers, and a les tele is a workable alternative. Plus they don't usually weigh nearly as much. When I was younger, I didn't mind 10lb guitars, but now that can be real pain in the.....neck.

I built a tele using this type of combination (although still a 25 1/2" scale with Fender neck woods) not exact, but it has no problem covering Led Zep. Sustains for days, and it's no heavier than a typical Fender solid body.

Playing comfort are subjective factors. I dislike the Gibson scale length myself, but I know that millions of players love it. I think I just like the tuanter feel of Fenders, and the relative location of the bridge more.

 

[DeanSweden]

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I'm look for a guitar that gets me at least in the ball park -soundwize- of a Les Paul but that has (most importantly) a strat-style bridge (does'nt matter if it's vibrato or not).
I find it difficult to change between the two.
Any ideas?

sounds like you want something like this:

 

[some_dude]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

McCarty Rosewood; A good compromise between a Strat and an LP, though many like to swap the pups for something clearer.

The Standard and Custom 22s also do a fair job of bridging the gap to IMO.

 

[MDS]

Re: Les Paul Sound, Strat Playabilty

You need a big slab of mahogany and a mahogany set neck to even get close to the LP sound, IMO. The body shape of an LP effects the sound pretty dramatically too. In my mind there is a big different between a dual humbucker strat, and a Les Paul.

I had always been a strat guy, and never liked how LPs played, even though I loved the tone. After years of ignoring LPs and I stumbled on the 60s slim necked Standards and Classics. The thinner neck makes them feel a lot more like a strat. I bought a sweet Classic that is a great player and gets tones I've never had from any of my strats and super strats.

Mike