Let's talk caps for a min?
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mrfjones
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i could be wrong too i am not looking at any of the caps right now, where is the value written on the orange drop? I will open up one of my teles and check. maybe i have the .02 in my blonde tele and the black one that is being built has an .047. I didn't wire up the control plate for the black one but i am sure i looked at that cap. hhmmmmm time to take another look in the guitars.
Lewguitar said:
i could be wrong too i am not looking at any of the caps right now, where is the value written on the orange drop? I will open up one of my teles and check. maybe i have the .02 in my blonde tele and the black one that is being built has an .047. I didn't wire up the control plate for the black one but i am sure i looked at that cap. hhmmmmm time to take another look in the guitars.
telerifik
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Mods are addiction man... since I got off the stock wagon I can't help but wonder what's under the hood of every guitar I look at.
Here are some Orange Drop pics for those who asked. I use the ones in the top pic, 22s... to my ear it seems like they give my teles a little more warmth and spank.
Mods are addiction man... since I got off the stock wagon I can't help but wonder what's under the hood of every guitar I look at.
Here are some Orange Drop pics for those who asked. I use the ones in the top pic, 22s... to my ear it seems like they give my teles a little more warmth and spank.
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Lightning
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The most radical change I've heard in tone controls (for the better) is the fifty's mod. The tone control sounds open as if I were manipulating it from the amp. It does cause the control to have less effect but I would not consider using a 250k pot for tone (defeats the purpose of the Mod in a Gibson). I actually use the tone control now (that is...only the ones on fifty's modded guitars). As for the volume control I like the fifty's mod better than the high pass/treble bleed ckt (which I used for over 25 years). The fifty's mod is the way it should be and the high pass is like an effect. If I ever use it again I'll be able to switch it and contemporary wiring in and out.
The most radical change I've heard in tone controls (for the better) is the fifty's mod. The tone control sounds open as if I were manipulating it from the amp. It does cause the control to have less effect but I would not consider using a 250k pot for tone (defeats the purpose of the Mod in a Gibson). I actually use the tone control now (that is...only the ones on fifty's modded guitars). As for the volume control I like the fifty's mod better than the high pass/treble bleed ckt (which I used for over 25 years). The fifty's mod is the way it should be and the high pass is like an effect. If I ever use it again I'll be able to switch it and contemporary wiring in and out.
Gearjoneser
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Can someone here give us a rundown of some of the capacitor favorites?
Gibson Les Paul. Volume cap? Tone cap?
Fender Strat.
Fender Tele.
Jackson with hot pickups? H-S-S
Can someone here give us a rundown of some of the capacitor favorites?
Gibson Les Paul. Volume cap? Tone cap?
Fender Strat.
Fender Tele.
Jackson with hot pickups? H-S-S
Oldslowhand
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Is there a link to the 50's mod It might be what I,m looking for instead of a high pass /treble bleed
Is there a link to the 50's mod It might be what I,m looking for instead of a high pass /treble bleed
Artie
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This is one I "doodled" a long time ago. It gives you the basic idea, though.
Also, just to toss this out there again - there can be quite a difference in caps of slightly different value. Capacitors are not precision devices. The difference one hears between two different brand names may, in all likelyhood, simply be he difference between two different values.
BTW - Oldslowhand: that font color you use is almost impossible for these old eyes to see.
Oldslowhand said:
This is one I "doodled" a long time ago. It gives you the basic idea, though.
Also, just to toss this out there again - there can be quite a difference in caps of slightly different value. Capacitors are not precision devices. The difference one hears between two different brand names may, in all likelyhood, simply be he difference between two different values.
BTW - Oldslowhand: that font color you use is almost impossible for these old eyes to see.
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Lewguitar
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I do the 50's mod on all of my guitars...Strats too. It's very simple. Instead of the cap being connected to the same terminal of the volume pot as the pickup or pickups, you connect it to the middle terminal of the volume pot which usually also leads to the output jack. Lew
I do the 50's mod on all of my guitars...Strats too. It's very simple. Instead of the cap being connected to the same terminal of the volume pot as the pickup or pickups, you connect it to the middle terminal of the volume pot which usually also leads to the output jack. Lew
Oldslowhand
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Sorry Mate:13: but it looks ok agansst the blue !!! thanks again
Sorry Mate:13: but it looks ok agansst the blue !!! thanks again
ArtieToo said:This is one I "doodled" a long time ago. It gives you the basic idea, though.
Also, just to toss this out there again - there can be quite a difference in caps of slightly different value. Capacitors are not precision devices. The difference one hears between two different brand names may, in all likelyhood, simply be he difference between two different values.
BTW - Oldslowhand: that font color you use is almost impossible for these old eyes to see.
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Lewguitar
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Old Slowhand, just so's you know, your posts are so much trouble to read that I don't read them. It's the colors you choose...not the content. You might want to go with some more normal black and white. Thanks! Lew
Oldslowhand said:
Old Slowhand, just so's you know, your posts are so much trouble to read that I don't read them. It's the colors you choose...not the content. You might want to go with some more normal black and white. Thanks! Lew
Oldslowhand
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Ok sorry mate
Ok sorry mate
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Lewguitar
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I think the .02 value will have the clearer tone...not brighter but you'll have more upper mids retained in the signal path when you turn the tone control down.
Curly, .047 is so close to .05 that most folks regard them as being the same value. Just as .022 is so close to .02 that most regard them as being the same value too. You should get your Tele Antiquitys today or wednesday, BTW...I shipped them friday.
Lew
mrfjones said:
I think the .02 value will have the clearer tone...not brighter but you'll have more upper mids retained in the signal path when you turn the tone control down.
Curly, .047 is so close to .05 that most folks regard them as being the same value. Just as .022 is so close to .02 that most regard them as being the same value too. You should get your Tele Antiquitys today or wednesday, BTW...I shipped them friday.
Lew
Curly
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Re: Let's talk caps for a min?
Lew,
I know that .047 is the same as .047, but I wondered about the change in cap values ... I guess it's no big deal, since they did the same with strats.
Actually, I tried an .02 cap -thought it was a little dark, but I think the .05 is a little bright :sad:
Lew,
I know that .047 is the same as .047, but I wondered about the change in cap values ... I guess it's no big deal, since they did the same with strats.
Actually, I tried an .02 cap -thought it was a little dark, but I think the .05 is a little bright :sad:
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Lewguitar
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That's kinda backwards. .05 is generally thought of as being less bright than .02. Both bleed off treble to ground when the gate to ground (the tone pot) is opened up by turning the tone pot down. But the .05 value also allows upper mids to pass to ground that would have been blocked with a .02.
Lew
Curly said:
That's kinda backwards. .05 is generally thought of as being less bright than .02. Both bleed off treble to ground when the gate to ground (the tone pot) is opened up by turning the tone pot down. But the .05 value also allows upper mids to pass to ground that would have been blocked with a .02.
Lew
midnite_man
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Wasn't there a post not too long ago that stated that when you solder in a cap, you should do it a certain way as far as the lettering on the cap is concerned? Wasn't that something to do with when you solder a cap onto a tone-pot?
-Bob
Wasn't there a post not too long ago that stated that when you solder in a cap, you should do it a certain way as far as the lettering on the cap is concerned? Wasn't that something to do with when you solder a cap onto a tone-pot?
-Bob
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Lewguitar
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Doesn't really matter with a guitar tone control. It matters more in an amp's circuit and there is usually a black line marked for one lead of the cap. That means that lead should go to ground or be regarded as the output side of the cap to block DC from leaking into the cap.
midnite_man said:
Doesn't really matter with a guitar tone control. It matters more in an amp's circuit and there is usually a black line marked for one lead of the cap. That means that lead should go to ground or be regarded as the output side of the cap to block DC from leaking into the cap.
midnite_man
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Aha! Thanks, Lew!!
Lewguitar said:
Aha! Thanks, Lew!!
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